heavenly witnesses apparatus - PICS ! - LaParola - UBS2 - UBS3 - UBS4 - NA28 - Tischendorf et al

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apparatus - PICS ! - LaParola - UBS2 - UBS3 - UBS4 - NA28 - Tischendorf et al
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...a-ubs2-ubs3-ubs4-na28-tischendorf-et-al.4440/

Old Latin summary
https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/old-latin-summary.1887/
has Colbertinus issues
Here are the Old Latin mss that are listed in the apparatus as with the heavenly witnesses.

it-c Colbertinus
it-dem Demidovianus
it-div Divionensis
it-l Legionensis
it-m Speculum
it=p Perpignan
it-q Monacensis/Friesinger

There is one contra
it-ar Book of Armagh

solecism - ship of grammatical fools - BVDB - matt13weedhacker, Bill Brown, Euthymius

solecism - ship of grammatical fools - BVDB - matt13weedhacker, Bill Brown, Euthymius

lets start with Matt - he was so intent to demonstrate his ignorance that he placed in 3 posts! https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/bibleversiondiscussionboard/in-defense-of-the-authenticity-of-1-john-5-7-t6020-s490.html#p81821 1st post 2nd post 3rd post ....

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Charles Butler on the Vulgate text and Colbertinus and others

Charles Butler on the Vulgate text and Colbertinus and others

Codex Colbertinus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Colbertinus Horae Biblicae https://books.google.com/books?id=3RpMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA407 The Gentleman's Magazine: Or, Monthly Intelligencer ..., Volume 85, Part 1 Charles Butler https://books.google.com/books?id=4K8UAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA127...

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NA apparatus errors on the heavenly witnesses
https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/na-apparatus-errors-on-the-heavenly-witnesses.962/

apparatus abbreviations, portals, manuscript lists, language resources - LaParola
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...script-lists-language-resources-laparola.867/

apparatus rigging
https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/apparatus-rigging.454/

apparatus rigging - the example of uncials and the Pericope Adulterae
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...e-of-uncials-and-the-pericope-adulterae.3739/

picture of apparatus rigging of majuscules, Tischendorf, Pickering, NA 28
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...-majuscules-tischendorf-pickering-na-28.4388/

apparatus and ECW resources - LaParola - e-catena
https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/apparatus-and-ecw-resources-laparola-e-catena.3417/

 

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LaParola
www.laparola.net/greco/index.php?rif1=69&rif2=5:7
ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες,

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TEXT
5:7 (Münster)
μαρτυροῦντες, 8 τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα] ‭א A B K L P (Ψ 1844 1852 μαρτυροῦνσιν) 048 049 056 0142 33 81 88text 104 181 322 323 326 330 436 451 614 630 945 1067 1175 1241 1243 1292 1409 1505 1611 1735 1739 1846 1877 1881 2127 2138 2298 2344 2412 2464 2492 2495 Byz Lect (l884 βάπτισμα for αἷμα) itar vgww vgst syrp syrh copsa copbo armmss eth geo arab slav Irenaeus Irenaeuslat Tertullian Hippolytus (Origenlat) Rebaptism Faustinus Hilary Lucifer Athanasius Basil Gregory-Nazianzus Ambrose Didymus Epiphanius Chrysostom Jerome Augustine (Cyril) Ps-Dionysiusvid Quodvultdeus Facundus (John-Damascus) NR CEI Riv TILC Nv NM
μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ ὁ λόγος καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα, καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσιν. 8 καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα] (61 629 omit the following καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν) (88v.r.) (177v.r. πατὴρ λόγος καὶ ἅγιον) 221v.r. (429v.r.) (636v.r.) (918) 2318 lAD vgcl armmss ς ND Dio
testimonium dicunt (oppure dant) in terra, spiritus (oppure spiritus et) aqua et sanguis, et hi tres unum sunt in Christo Iesu. 8 et tres sunt, qui testimonium dicunt in caelo, pater, verbum et spiritus] (itc itdem itdiv omit in Christo Iesu) itl itm itp (itq omit et hi tres unum sunt in Christo Iesu) vgmss (Cyprian) (Ps-Cyprian) (Priscillian) Ps-Vigilius Cassian Speculum Varimadum Fulgentius Ps-Athanasius Ansbert mssaccording to Victor-Vita

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UBS2 from Kirk

 

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NA28 from Kirk

 

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TRUNCATED TO ECW

 

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Facebook question - Old Latin now compared to UBS-3 with Colbertinus
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NTTextualCriticism/posts/8226052264148368/

 

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This has the full Old Latin
https://nocr.net/bible_grk_varapp/122464

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TIGINT 2024 1 Giovanni

TIGINT 2024 1 Giovanni ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ ΕΠΙΣΤΟΛΗ ΠΡΩΤΗ 1° Trattato di Giovanni a tutti i Cristiani TIGINT Traduzione Interlineare Greco Italiano del Nuovo Testamento nuovo, testamento, bibbia, interlineare, italiano, greco, traduzione, trasliterazione,

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StepBible (the same text, harder to read)

1Jo 5 | VarApp | STEP | καὶ τὸν] (‭א 69 pc καὶ τό) A K L P 049 056 0142 81 88 104 181 322 323 330 436 451 614 629 vid 630 945 1067 1175 1241 1243 1292 1409 1505 1611 1735 1739 1844 1846 1852 1877 1881 2127 2138 2298 2344 2412 2464 2495 Byz Lect it c

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Adds source info

UBS The Greek New Testament

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The UBS critical text keeps changing both its Greek texts and the footnotes found at the bottom of its pages. In addition to the names found in the UBS 4th edition that supported the inclusion of the Three witnesses in heaven - Cyprian, Priscillian and Fulgentius, the UBS 3rd edition also lists Varimadum, Cassian and Ansbert.

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1 Johannes 5:8

1 Johannes 5:8

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Spanish

Crítica Textual 1ªJuan 5:7-8

"Porque tres son los que dan testimonio en el cielo: el Padre, el Verbo y el Espíritu Santo; y estos tres son uno. Y tres son los que dan t...

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One PIC

I-AD - check NA

 

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the UBS-3 apparatus for the heavenly and earthly witnesses (1 John 5:7-8)

UBS-3 on 1 John 5:7-8 This is in StepBible and a number of places, I am posting the cleanest version to read. It should help one poster who twists himself around in knots. In fact, UBS tried to do some updating after the UBS-3 apparatus came out, however I do not know if any changes were...

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There are a number of interesting points in this apparatus.
The way they used the Latin was helpful, now I believe they try to fold the Latin into Greek equivalents.
Some quirks
it-m is the same as Speculum
2427 is Archaic Mark - a forgery now removed (thus, a prototype for the future removal of Sinaiticus)
Ps-Cyprian for inclusion would likely be Hundredfold Martyrs
Most of the negative ECWS simply do not belong in the omission group.
Cassian was listed positive, but I have not seen any evidence in support of his using the heavenly witnesses.
it-c is Colbertinus
Ps-Athanasius is likely one of the De Trinitate references, there actually are about 4 and they are not all considered Ps-Athanasius.
Ps-Vigilius may have been the way to mask the signatures of 400+ bishops at the Council of Carthage.
Armenian mss listed as split between inclusion and omission.
Ansbert should be Autpert. (I'll check this.)
Many powerful supports from the early centuries are omitted.
This is all from memory.
Some years back I put out a series of about ten posts on a textual forum with many corrections, it probably is upstairs on an older puter.

 

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I-AD lectionary question placed on Facebook NT Textual Criticism

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On that apparatus I884 is a specific lectionary with a different reading mentioned here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_lectionaries Does anyone know what is I-AD (superscript,...

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Does anyone know what is I-AD (superscript, see pic)
Is that “I” actually an “ℓ “ - symbol for lectionary (Latin L ?) .
That might help inquiries about the superscript “AD”.

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