Zurich Psalter - looking closer at the Psalm 129:6 exemplar (Facebook, CARM, BCHF)

Steven Avery

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απο φυλακηϲ πρωϊαϲ ελπιϲατω ιηλ επι τον κν

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κύριον is in the editions online rather than kv (nomina sacra)

Does Zurich Psalter have nomina sacra?
Note differences?
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Lines 3-4-5 are the Sinaiticus correction at the bottom of page
Line 1-2 are in the Sin text - 1st column - arrowhead at end of line from Sin scribe

Note the homeoarchy element!

Sinaiticus reverses the line sections, possibly a result of fixing homeoarchy.
Tischendorf and Prince Regent?

Which order is standard LXX?
Washington ms agrees with Zurich - short one first
Logos Sinaiticus agrees with Sinaiticus long one first
Below we can check other LXX editions

And is Zosimas a possible Psalm 129 source -
Is it identical with Zurich Psalter on the fix text?

We should study one or two additional verses in both connections to see better

An interesting point - the unlikelihood in 4th century LXX manuscripts of line formatting being perfect for homeopathy drops! Look at LXX mss.
Similar problem with NT Claromontanus hits!

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Swete - 1896
https://books.google.com/books?id=BdY8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA393
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CSP
https://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/...ook=26&chapter=129&lid=en&side=r&zoomSlider=0

Verses 5-6-7
ενεκεν του ονοματοϲ ϲου ϋπε
μεινα ┬ κε
ϋπεμινεν η ψυχη μου ειϲ τον
νομον αυτου
6
ηλπιϲεν η ψυχη μου επι τον κν ┬
απο φυλακηϲ πρωϊαϲ μεχρι νυκτοϲ

Google translate
I hope my soul rests with Mr from prison morning to night

Psalm 130:6 (AV) Masoretic in KJB
My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.
7
οτι παρα τω κω το ελεοϲ και πολ
λη παρ αυτω λυτρωϲιϲ

Searching for these Greek phrases in verses 5,6,7 we usually only have Sinaiticus showing up , with one Swete GNT exception.


απο φυλακηϲ πρωϊαϲ μεχρι νυκτοϲ
The Washington manuscript of the Psalms
https://books.google.com/books?id=VTgAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA324
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The Washington Manuscript of the Psalms (Washington MS II), designated as Rahlfs 1219 (in the Rahlfs numbering of Septuagint manuscripts), van Haelst 83 (in the Van Haelst catalogue numbers of Septuagint manuscripts), is a Greek Septuagint

Rahlfs 1219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahlfs_1219
Using the study of comparative writing styles (palaeography), it has been assigned to the 5th Century CE.[2]: 107 

according to the intro they followed the formating of the ms





Using this search function
https://www.google.com/search?clien...kGHRxmBIIQ0pQJegQILhAB&biw=1360&bih=535&dpr=1

Sixtene
https://books.google.com/books?id=zh1KAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA632

Jerome
https://books.google.com/books?id=sCA1SOXU8DcC&pg=PP174

1533
https://books.google.com/books?id=0pvc9QEHcwQC&pg=PA202-IA1

1778
https://books.google.com/books?id=hLJgAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA334

1528
https://books.google.com/books?id=pFdiAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA59
Από φυλακής πρωίας μέχρι νυκτός , ἀπὸ φυλα μας πρωίας ἐλπισάτω Ισραήλ και τον κύριομ . Ole Azα be nugic & ἔλεος , πολλάς αὐτῷ λύτρωσις . καὶ αὐτὸς λυξώσεις * Ἰσραὴλ ἐκ πασῶν ἀνομιῶν αὐτο . Κ Τριε εισάκεσον οι anima mea Acuftodia in ...

Do any of these match the line formatting for the drop?


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PBF pages with Psalm 129:6

https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...-zurich-psalter-vaticanus-zosimas-et-al.3391/
IS THIS THE SOURCE FOR WHAT I PLACED ON FACEBOOK?
Post #4 and especially

Post #13- Kirk info
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...lter-vaticanus-zosimas-et-al.3391/#post-14124

https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...-or-as-c-a-moll-swete-crisci.2890/#post-13810

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On two Facebook forums

greek palaeography /
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1315604118924050/posts/1662901054194353/?comment_id=1669423323542126

IOSCS
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ioscs/posts/3687795261458545/?comment_id=3687902321447839

PIC NO SHOW?o
 
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Steven Avery

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Joshua Alfaro
This manuscript has been given the Rahlfs sigla "Ra T." Here is the Göttinger Septuaginta online catalog entry which includes some helpful bibliography: https://septuaginta.uni-goettingen.de/catalogue/Ra_T I'm sure the Göttingen team will be studying it as part of the ongoing editio critica maior Greek Psalter project.

Joshua Alfaro
Is there any possibility that there is no direct connection between Sinaiticus and the Zurich Psalter? If the Sinaiticus corrections are mainly hexaplaric, which in my experience for other books of the LXX they usually are, they could simply come from a common source.

Steven Avery
Joshua Alfaro - we try to have good controls, which include Rahlfs, the Vaticanus (majuscule and minuscule sections) Alexandrinus.
The possibility that the Zurich Psalter matches an earlier source frequently letter-for-letter is small, but any control suggestions will be considered.

Joshua Alfaro
Steven Avery if the corrections are hexaplaric, you will also want to consult
MS Rahlfs 2110 = Bodmer XXIV. Rahlfs’ Handausgabe and, I think also the
1931 Psalmi cum Odis editio minor will only give you a couple hexaplaric sources at best.

See Brian Baucom’s work on Ra 2110 here:
https://arcabc.ca/islandora/object/twu:441/datastream/PDF/download/citation.pdf
THE RELATION OF RA 2110, OR P. BODMER XXIV, TO ORIGEN'S HEXAPLA:
A STUDY IN THE TEXTUAL HISTORY OF THE GREEK PSALTER
by
BRIAN PHILLIP BAUCOM
 
Steven Avery

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Full Psalm 129

lines up for homeoarcton homeoarchy

zurich - yes
alexandrinus - yes
Grabe-Breitinger - no
Vaticanus no
zosima - no
Washington yes (in book edition which is said to follow ms.)

Zosima differences with Sin at Psalm 129
Found two so far
2) 3rd word of line 3

Zurich Psalter differences with Sin Psalm 129

sinaiticus has I rather than ei
 
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Steven Avery

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Steven Avery

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There are two or three distinct issues:

1) which manuscripts have exact (allowing nomina sacra) text correction matches with
Sinaiticus

Alexandrinus - 450
Vaticanus majuscule - 1000 NO
Grabe-Breitlinger (offshoot of Alex) - 1730
Zosima - 1821
Zurich Psalter - 800 printed 1869 - YES - we think it matches ms. Formatting
Washington ms. Freer - 450 - printed 1917 - said to match formatting

some possible Psalm additions

Rahlfs 1301 - New Finds

Georgi Parpulov: A New-Found Majuscule Psalter (Rahlfs 1301)

Göttinger Septuaginta. Website of the Academy project Editio critica maior of the Greek Psalter
septuaginta.uni-goettingen.de septuaginta.uni-goettingen.de

2) which manuscripts would have a theoretical ok for a homoearcton creation (even if not exact text match)
Zurich Psalter
Alexandrinus manuscript (with elongated line!)
Washington book edition

others - no

3) how is text matching for the full verse
Zosima - some differences
Zurich -

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here is a thought.
since Zosimov put those words in parenthesis was he marking them as doubtful? or an addition to the text? or a variant reading
 
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Steven Avery

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Jongkind has 129:6 under LEAPS p. 177

Sinaiticus is omitted
The Greek is Rahlfs.

Does not say that there is a correction, asking Dirk.
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