Tischendorf in 1844 knew the manuscript included the New Testament and came over from Constantinople

[Steven Avery]

(One poster pointed out "why the detour?", however I can't find that now ).


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  - Codex Sinaiticus & Constantine Simonides - the Russian "Orthodox Review" Vol. 10, 1863 (Православное Обозрение, 1863, Х, p. 362ff.)

Isn't it absolutely amazing that names that are commonly used ... are commonly used. I was in a grade school class where I was one of five who could arise when the name Steven was called. Exactly. Thank you for perfectly illustrating the confused effect Simonides hoped to achieve.

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Letter to his brother Julius
Cairo, 15th of June, 1844
Pages 83-84
"He must cut his trip short : he wants to go to the Patri-Arch in Constantinople in order to obtain the rest of the folia (beside the 43 he has) which remained at Sinai ; thus he has suspended making a public announcement of his find. That his trip to Sinai was of interest to him in thousands of other ways his brother will certainly understand."
https://www.academia.edu/1123038/Th...tters_of_Konstantin_Tischendorf?auto=download

1) Why the detour route?
2) Why Constantinople?

Answer
1) He already knew about the New Testament, so Europe could wait.
2) The hint had been dropped in Sinai that the manuscript came over from Antigonus.

This rounds out our earlier discussion.

Letter to his brother Julius
Cairo, 14th of February 1853 [Digital Page 3] Page 198
"He visits the Patri-Arch and head of the Sinai Monastery [Constantine, former Patri-Arch of Constantinople, later archbishop of Sinai] together with the Russian minister and general consul and finds the best reception ; he hopes to find the same reception at Sinai itself ; his dear old friend Cyril the librarian is still there ; he believes he has God’s blessing for his new journey."

Jerusalem had direct authority over Sinai, not Constantinople.
The destination was Constantinople and Antigonus because Tischendorf knew that was where the ms. came from.

Wow. A fantabulous confirmation.
It definitely sounds like Tischendorf was tipped off at Sinai that the manuscript had come from Constantius!
Not only Constantius, but even Antigonus Island!
(An important detail I had overlooked.)
Thanks for helping piece together an important confirmation of the Simonides account.
It also sounds like the New Testament was already in play, which is confirmed by Uspensky 1845, and also a similar report from Major MacDonald.

 

[Steven Avery]

Where are the Antigonus quotes? For 1844
TNC had written "(Antigonus Island, now known as Burgaz Island)" but without a quote.

Constantinople, 4 September 1844
p. 95
He has been received by the present patriarch and by two dismissed patriarchs on the Princes Islands.


Tischendorf 1853 quote above is obscure.

Daniels

Burgaz Island

This is 1859 have to check book

This is also 1859 - en route to Sinai - have to check book

 

[Steven Avery]

Travels in the East (translated 1847)
Tischendorf
https://books.google.com/books?id=KBYEAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA272

THE LIBRARIES. THE PATRIARCHS. THE ISLANDS OF THE PRINCES.
It is an ancient and widely-spread opinion that, both in and about Constantinople, even to the present day, costly Greek manuscripts are
concealed.

Who would not discredit the possibility of walled-up libraries ? yet the walled-up library at Cairo, of which I have before given an account (p. 30), is a fact.


http://books.google.com/books?id=KBYEAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA275

Is the walled-up porch the NEW FINDS?

It is true, he was never there in person; for the visit of the archbishop to the monastery would not only involve extraordinary expense, but would occasion the unpleasant necessity of opening the walled-up porch.

— visit to the Greek Patriarch of Constantinople— The library of the Patriarch of Jerusalem — Arrival at the Armenian’s on the Island Chalki — The deposed Patriarch Gregorius — Visit to the Patriarch Constantius on the Island Antigone —