theft - Uspensky? Tischendorf publishes Corinthians papyrus - the first New Testament Greek papyrus - P11 and P14 (discovered at Sinai by Harris)

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Konstantin von Tischendorf, ‘Vortrag des Geheimen Hofrath Professor Dr. Tischendorf: “Griechische Paläographie”’ in: Verhandlungen der fünfundzwanzigsten Versammlung Deutscher Philologen und Schulmänner in Halle, Leipzig 1868.

Amazon (Tischendorf book, but see Google down below)
https://www.amazon.com/Verhandlunge...sammlung-Philologen-Schulmänner/dp/0364519231

Constantine Tischendorf: The Life and Work of a 19th Century Bible Hunter (2014)
Stanley Porter
https://books.google.com/books?id=P...="corinthians" "uspensky""sinaiticus"&f=false

A last criticism sometimes presented against Tischendorf concerns the use of the Greek majuscule codexes, when later textual criticism has often talked much more about the importance of the Greek papyri (even if they are not as widely used as some would claim or desire). The number of papyri available at the time of Tischendorf for textual criticism of the Greek New Testament was exactly zero, until Tischendorf himself brought to light the first New Testament Greek papyrus, a papyrus that had been brought to the St Petersburg library from the East by Uspensky. It was thought by Tischendorf to be at least a late fourth-century fragment (now thought to be seventh century) of 62 verses of 1 Corinthians. Its date— despite its being a papyrus—is later than Codex Sinaiticus (regardless of the date accepted) and would not therefore necessarily displace the mid-fourth-century Sinaiticus,166

166 See Constantine Tischendorf, Verhandlungen der funfundzwanzigsten Versammlung deutscher Philologen und Schulmanner in Halle (Leipzig: Teubner, 1868), 42-8 (44-5); cf. Kenyon, Handbook, 43 (P11); Joseph van Haelst, Catalogue des ...
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Pics of the above section.
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Steven Avery

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Papyrus 11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_11
SA: oops, does not even mention P14

Papyrus 14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_14
SA: oops, does not even mention p11
It was discovered in Saint Catherine's Monastery on Mount Sinai in Egypt by J. Rendel Harris, who published its text in 1890. It was also examined by Schofield.
SA: Wiki gives Kenyon for the Harris reference
Frederic G. Kenyon, "Handbook to the Textual Criticism of the New Testament", London2, 1912, p. 44.
https://books.google.com/books?id=sypVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA144
SA: (but this says Galatians, not Corinthians, maybe on another page)
SA: Here is the key section of 1890.

Biblical Fragments from Mt. Sinai
James Rendel Harris
https://books.google.com/books?id=Mu2fAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA54
SA: three pages with hand-pics of the text
Ellwood M. Schofield, The Papyrus Fragments of the Greek New Testament, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, 1936, pp. 168-170.

Digital Images - CSNTM
https://manuscripts.csntm.org/manuscript/View/GA_P11
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Caspar Rene Gregory
https://archive.org/details/diegriechischen00greggoog/page/n57/mode/2up?view=theater
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Scrivener-Miller (1894)
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/scrivener/ntcrit1/Page_186.html
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Dating
Aland, Kurt; Aland, Barbara (1995). The Text of the New Testament: An Introduction to the Critical Editions and to the Theory and Practice of Modern Textual Criticism. Erroll F. Rhodes (trans.). Grand Rapids: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. p. 96. ISBN 978-0-8028-4098-1.
(text not yet available)

New Testament Textual Criticism:The Application of Thoroughgoing Principles: Essays on Manuscripts and Textual Variation (2010)
James Keith Elliott
https://books.google.com/books?id=tjgzlfewUxgC&pg=PA564
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https://books.google.com/books?id=tjgzlfewUxgC&pg=PA547
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Edward D. Andrews largely takes from Wikipedia
https://christianpublishinghouse.co...pyrus-manuscripts-of-the-greek-new-testament/

PAPYRUS 11

Papyrus 11 (in the Gregory-Aland numbering) signed by P11, is a copy of a part of the New Testament in Greek. It is a papyrus manuscript of the First Epistle to the Corinthians. It contains fragments 1 Corinthians 1:17-22; 2:9-12.14; 3:1-3,5-6; 4:3; 5:5-5.7-8; 6:5-9.11-18; 7:3-6.10-11.12-14. Only some portions of the codex can be read.[1] Comfort tells us that “P11 was the first Papyrus codex brought to light. Tischendorf saw it in 1862 and dated it as ‘late fourth or early fifth century.’ (Being that it is part of the same codex as P14 (see below), P11 probably came from St. Catherine’s Monastery.) Harris dated the manuscript to the fifth century. I would date it the same as Tischendorf did; it is late fourth (or possibly early fifth) century because of its unmistakeable likeness to P112.” – Philip Wesley Comfort and David P. Barrett, THE TEXT OF THE EARLIEST NEW TESTAMENT MANUSCRIPTS: Papyri 75-139 and Uncials, Vol. 2 (English and Greek Edition) (Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Academic, 2019), 383.

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Steven Avery

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Was the original theft Uspensky or Tischendorf?

Reading the Tischendorf account.may help.
 
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Ehrman
The Text of the New Testament
https://books.google.com/books?id=YVwzAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA3

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On the early citation of P11, Aland and Aland, Text of the New Testament, 84.
P11 survives in seventeen leaves and P14 in four. Tischendorf dated P11 as “end of the 4/5 century”; others dated it variously from that period to the seventh century, but currently P11 + P14 is placed in the sixth century. On its early history, see Kurt Treu, “Zur Rekonstruktion eines neutestamentlichen Papyruskodex (P11, Leningrad Gr. 258, und P14, Sinai, Harris Nr. 14),” FF 31 (1957): 185–189.

Then in 1890 J. Rendel Harris published P1, which was widely recognized as from the same MS as P11.
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SA: book error, means P14
 
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Steven Avery

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Summary

P11 printed by Tisch in 1868
Maybe he got it from Uspensky at NLR, unclear.
It is an uncial papyrus script, not far from Sinaiticus script
first NT papyrus
Tisch said 4th century
In 1890 Harris discovers what Tisch or Usp left behind
Later they made it 6th or 7th century … trust the Science
Extremely brittle - so it might be … old
 
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