Kevin McGrane theorizes the Athos catalogue entries 6406 and 6407 of Kallinikos as being as late as 1867

[Steven Avery]

James Anson Farrer
And there is another MS. at Pantelemon, copied by the hand of Constantine Simonides on 27th March, 1841 (6405), and two other copies of the same work by Kallinikos Monachos (6406, 6407), which prove that Kallinikos and Simonides were at Pantelemon at the same time and associated in the same work. – p. 81

Kevin McGrane in Bill Cooper book

… the evidence does not establish that a Kallinkos at the Panteleimon monastery .. was there at the same time as Simonides – p. 79, n157

Two of the works in the Lambros catalogue by Kallinikos (6406 and 6407) are mere copies of the work by Simonides of 1841 (6405), and we are not given the date of the copying. However, another of the works by Kallinikos who describes himself as 'the least of the monks of the Russikon coenobium' was done in March 1867, which is 26 years after Simonides left the monastery, so hardly establishes contemporaneity. – p. 71, n157

the Lambros catalogue gives no support for Simonides' correspondent Καλλινικος ιερομοναχος being at the Panteleimon monastery, nor even of a lay monk named Καλλινικος being there at the same time as Simonides. – ibid

Kevin McGrane in discussion
The Kallinikos writings are mere copies (an indeterminate time later) of what Simonides wrote in 1841. Since we absolutely know (from Lambros) that Kallinikos was active in writing in 1867 there is nothing discoverable from Lambros that would suggest his copies of Simonides' writings l earlier than that date. ... As is painfully obvious from Farrer's account, and inspection of the Lambros catalogue itself, the only date recorded in the catalogue for Kallinikos is for an activity 26 years after Simonides left the monastery, and the undated ones are later copies of his work - an indeterminate time later. There is thus no evidence whatsoever for contemporaneity. ... Farrer's argument (recycled endlessly by the aforementioned) is hopelessly and shamefully weak on Kallinikos ... the personage recorded in March 1867 is not the invented Kallinikos Hieromonachos of Simonides.

The only sensible part above is that the 1867 Kallinikos in the catalogue might not be related to Simonides.

Also of special interest is Simonides working on the Shepherd of Hermas!

As for Kevin McGrane saying he has more information about Kallinikos at Athos from the Russian archives of Russico, it really is irrelevant right now since he is hiding the information.

The key point is that Kevin McGrane wants to theorize the Kallinikos 6406 and 6407 as even 25+ years later than 6405, even though they are closely connected to 6405 in the catalog. Quite the obtuse.

 

[Steven Avery]

CARM

  - Codex Sinaiticus and Constantine Simonides timeline

But aside from that, you still have the problem that your 1841 "evidence": a) comes from 1890, meaning it isn't evidence at all This is one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. And for Bill Brown, that is going over a very high bar.

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This is one reason I knew that Kevin McGrane was not an honest scholastic broker, or he had some intellectual problems.
Kevin obstinately and absolutely refused to see the obvious and clear connection of these three entries. It was quite an amazing discussion. Kevin wanted to theorize that 6406 and 6407 night have been 25 years later!

You are welcome to join Kevin McGrane in Absurdity in Argumentation.

Prove it.
Quote him.

James Anson Farrer
Literary Forgeries p. 81

And there is another MS. at Pantelemon, copied by the hand of Constantine Simonides on 27th March, 1841 (6405), and two other copies of the same work by Kallinikos Monachos (6406, 6407), which prove that Kallinikos and Simonides were at Pantelemon at the same time and associated in the same work.

Kevin McGrane in the Bill Cooper book

… the evidence does not establish that a Kallinkos at the Panteleimon monastery .. was there at the same time as Simonides – p. 79, n157

Two of the works in the Lambros catalogue by Kallinikos (6406 and 6407) are mere copies of the work by Simonides of 1841 (6405), and we are not given the date of the copying. However, another of the works by Kallinikos who describes himself as 'the least of the monks of the Russikon coenobium' was done in March 1867, which is 26 years after Simonides left the monastery, so hardly establishes contemporaneity. – p. 71, n157

the Lambros catalogue gives no support for Simonides' correspondent Καλλινικος ιερομοναχος being at the Panteleimon monastery, nor even of a lay monk named Καλλινικος being there at the same time as Simonides. – ibid

Notice how Kevin McGrane is tricky, like you, in omitting the cross-references given in the catalogue!

Kevin McGrane in discussion

The Kallinikos writings are mere copies (an indeterminate time later) of what Simonides wrote in 1841. Since we absolutely know (from Lambros) that Kallinikos was active in writing in 1867 there is nothing discoverable from Lambros that would suggest his copies of Simonides' writings l earlier than that date. ... As is painfully obvious from Farrer's account, and inspection of the Lambros catalogue itself, the only date recorded in the catalogue for Kallinikos is for an activity 26 years after Simonides left the monastery, and the undated ones are later copies of his work - an indeterminate time later. There is thus no evidence whatsoever for contemporaneity. ... Farrer's argument (recycled endlessly by the aforementioned) is hopelessly and shamefully weak on Kallinikos ... the personage recorded in March 1867 is not the invented Kallinikos Hieromonachos of Simonides.

The only sensible part above is that the 1867 Kallinikos in the catalogue might not be related to Simonides.

As for Kevin McGrane saying he has more information about Kallinikos at Athos from the Russian archives of Russico, it really is irrelevant right now since he is hiding the information.

The key point is that Kevin McGrane wants to theorize the Kallinikos 6406 and 6407 as even 25+ years later than 6405, even though they are closely connected to 6405 in the catalog. Quite the obtuse.
Also of special interest is Simonides working