John 17:11 - Tertullian, Athanasius et al

Steven Avery

John 17:11 (AV)
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world,
and I come to thee.Holy Father,
keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me,
that they may be one, as we are.

And, no longer, am I in the world, and, they, are, in the world,
—and, I, unto thee, am coming. Holy Father!
Keep them in thy name which thou hast given me,
that they may be one, as, we.

13. The Arians, however, not even thus abashed, reply, "Not as you say, but as we will ; for, whereas you have overthrown our former expedients, we have invented a new one, and it is this:—So are the Son and the Father One, and so is the Father in the Son and the Son in the Father, as we too may become one in Him. For this is written in the Gospel according to John, and Christ desired it for us in these words, Holy Father, keep through Thine own Name, those whom Thou hast given Me, that they may be one, as We are [John xvii. 11.].

1. After the Lord Jesus had prayed for His disciples whom He had with Him at the time, and had conjoined with them others who were also His own, by saying, “Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also who shall believe on me through their word,” as if we were inquiring what or wherefore He prayed for them, He straightway subjoined, “That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in us.” And a little above, while still praying for the disciples alone who were then with Him, He said, “Holy Father, keep in Thine own name those whom Thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are” (ver. 11).

2. Again the Gospels fill up what is lacking in one another: we learn some things from one, some from another, and so on, because all are the proclamation of the same spirit. Thus John, who especially brings out the working of spiritual causes in the Gospel, preserves this prayer of the Lord for the Apostles, which all the others passed over: how He prayed, namely, Holy Father, keep them in Thy Name.…while I was them I kept them in Thy Name: those whom Thou gavest Me I have kept1

Tertullian - Against Praxeas
He commended His disciples to the safe-keeping of the Father.[353]

Ignatius - Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
For, says He, "Grant unto them, Holy Father, that as I and Thou are one, they also may be one in us."


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Steven Avery

John 17:11 17:11

Most of these are neutral on our variant.

Thus, being joined together in concord and harmonious love, of which Jesus Christ is the Captain and Guardian, do ye, man by man, become but one choir; so that, agreeing together in concord, and obtaining516516 Literally, “receiving a union to God in oneness.” a perfect unity with God, ye may indeed be one in harmonious feeling with God the Father, and His beloved Son Jesus Christ our Lord. For, says He, “Grant unto them, Holy Father, that as I and Thou are one, they also may be one in us.”517517 John xvii. 11, 12. It is therefore profitable that you, being joined together with God in an unblameable unity, should be the followers of the example of Christ, of whom also ye are members.

I. Jesus Christ, our God and Saviour, delivered to us the great mystery of godliness, and called both Jews and Gentiles to the acknowledgment of the one and only35513551 The words “one and only” are omitted in the Syriac and Coptic. true God His Father,35523552 One V. ms. omits “His Father.” The Syriac amd Coptic have “the only Father.” as Himself somewhere says, when He was giving thanks for the salvation of those that had believed, “I have manifested Thy name to men, I have finished the work Thou gavest me;”35533553 John xvii. 6, 4. and said concerning us to His Father, “Holy Father, although the world has not known Thee, yet have I known Thee; and these have known Thee.”3

And I ask for their sake: and my asking is not for the world, but for those whom [28] thou hast given me; for they are thine: 32863286 John xvii. 10.and all that is mine is thine, and all that is [29] thine is mine: and I am glorified in them.

“And, now, glorify me, O Father, with Thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was,”59515951 John xvii. 5. you must understand by the “world,” that which is inhabited by us on the earth; for it was from this world that the Father gave men to the Son, in regard to whom alone the Saviour beseeches His Father, and not for the whole world of men. Moreover, also, when the Saviour says, “And I come to thee and am no longer in the world,”59525952 John xvii. 11. He speaks of the terrestrial world; for it is not to be supposed that He spoke things contradictory when He said, “And I come to thee, and I am no longer in the world,” and “I am in the world.” But also in this, “And these things I speak in the world,”59535953 John xvii. 13.