Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit - John Bois and John Boys

Steven Avery


Steven Avery

From Pure Bible discussion, mixing the Boys.

Brett Mahlen
Unfortunately this just isn't the case. This is not a matter of committee. John Boys, Dean of Canterbury, and one of the brilliant minds who worked to translate the KJV/AV, who read the Hebrew Old Testament as a six year old, explains that Ghost is often used when the translators wanted to emphasize the third person of the Trinity as a person; note that Ghost is used when the Triune Divine Name is used. However, Spirit is used when the translators wanted to emphasize the third person of the Trinity's "spiration" or "procession" from the Father and/or the Son. True, the same word is used for Ghost and Spirit, pneuma in Greek and ruah in Hebrew, but the KJV is a distinctly Nicene Trinitarian Bible and that is why the translators used both Ghost and Spirit.

Nick Sayers
Brett Mahlen When the Spirit is present as a seperate person of the Godhead working in His own volition He is called the Holy Ghost.
When He is viewed the empowering force of the Godhead not denying His personality but emphasising His role He is called the Spirit.
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GOD is Spirit-John 4:v.24.

There is only one Spirit, the Word, the Word is GOD, one Body, and one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Ephesians 4:v.4-6

There is one GOD and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all-Eph.4:v.6. Who is Him according Scriptures? He is the Word. Great mystery; the Word is GOD, the invisible GOD.

The Word, I mean GOD, is an invisible Person. GOD is a title, it is the title of the Supreme Being, even Him who is Omnipotent, and Omniscient, and Omnipresent, as above said, He is One GOD and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. And when was made flesh He chose a name for He Himself, JESUS.

That said, do I need to talk about JESUS? What was exposed above clearly reflects who JESUS is, doesn't it? Reading Hebrews 1:v.1-3 heaven opens more clearly and widely to know and see JESUS just as He is. Just as JESUS said: I and my Father are Um-John 10:v.30. And he that hath seen me hath seen the Father-John 14:v.9.

But the great mystery is the third person intrinsically linked to the Word, say GOD the Father; the unknown personage called Holy Spirit (for me it is in no case admissible to speak of him as "ghost", it is a device trying to comment of an unknown personage within celestial environment).

The person of the Holy Spirit (no ghost) is present with the invisible GOD since the beginning, from Genesis to Revelation, sometimes in ocult, some times as an angel(archangel), as Liberator or Protector, even as a Warrior.

Since the beginning he is with GOD the Father, hidden or in occult with JESUS in Genesis 1:v.26;
He was with Noah in the Ark: Genesis 8:v.10-11
He blessed Abram, and Abram gave him tithes of all: Genesis 14:v.18-20.
He was one of the three that visited Abram in the plains of Mamre:Genesis 18:v.2
He ate bake, and unleavened bread, in the house of Lot, and also destroyed Sodom, and Gomorrah, and neighboring cities: Genesis 19:v.3 and 12-13.

The Lord -the person of the Holy Spirit- a MAN, a MAN of war, the Lord is his name-Exodus 15:v.3. JESUS is the LORD of lords, the Savior;

And the angel of God (the Lord, a prince of GOD, a warrior; which went before the camp of Israel, he removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:Exodus 14:v.19

The same angel (in fact an archangel) appeared to Moses in the Mount Sinai, and called Moses for the work to which GOD made him be born-Exodus 3:v. 10

GOD sent him in His own name to guide Moses during the journey of the people of Israel in the desert, he stood before Moses to fight and destroy six idolaters peoples in the way of Israel. Exodus 23:v.20-25, and even sickness would be taken away from the midst of the people.

Later he is with Joshua as a prince of the host of the Lord with his Sword drawn in his hand-Joshua 5:v.13 to 15.

Jumping to Revelation, we see him being sent by JESUS to the isle of Patmos to explain to John the content of the sealed book, the book of Apocalypse - Revelation 1:v.1. JESUS said: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:v.16

To call, or to suggest, or changing the title of the Holy Spirit as Holy "Ghost" because the mysterious person of Holy Spirit is unknown, it was a nonsense of the translators; "Ghost" is like a nickname, a fantasy, a mockery, because within Scriptures the Holy Spirit is the Paraclete, a defender, mentor, helper, intercessor, guide and protect another person, a comforter, he has a name written (in the Word of GOD, course), that no man knew/know, but he himself.

There are three that bear record in heaven (heaven? Ephesians1:v.3, among others), the Father-GOD the Father-, the Word-the Word made flesh-JESUS-, and the Holy "Ghost" -as he was nicknamed: (but he is not a "ghost" , but a person in flesh and bones as JESUS also was and is) and these three are One.

Speaking of heaven, "the heavens (the FIRST TWO HEAVENS) and the earth (ISRAEL, THE DRY LAND, THE CLAY, and not the Planet Earth) which are now, by the same Word (God's Word) are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment (the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium) and perdition of ungodly men-2Peter 3:v.7 combined with Isaiah 33:v.10 to 14, among others.

To the only wise God our Saviour, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen. Jude 1:v.25


1 John 5:v. 7 - There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person) : and these three are One. DETAIL: Are you knowing? The Holy Spirit is the LESSER -the smallest -among the three.

The Father is GOD, the Son is GOD, but the Holy Spirit is God, the smallest of the three. Although he is SOMEONE as you have understand he has been until now, or so far, actually the Holy Spirit, as a person, is very similar to the Son of man, JESUS Christ, but actually he has no light of his own, as JESUS has, he has no any message of his own, as JESUS had and has, and he as a person is very unknown because he has no genealogy as JESUS has, he has a written name, it is quite true, but his name is unknown, no man knows the name of the person of the Holy Spirit, despite being written, and being he SIMILAR to the Son of man - JESUS. In other words, JESUS is the Sun, the Sun of Righteousness, JESUS is the Greater Light, the Greater Luminary, but the person of the Holy Spirit has no light of his own, he is the Lesser Luminary, as the moon is, in the Solar system, the moon has not his own light, its light is from the Sun, it's light is the reflection of Solar light .

That said, the light that the person of the Holy Spirit reflects is not from Himself, no, it is not, absolutely not, in fact he reflects the Light that he receives from JESUS, as the moon receives the Light from the Sun. I say this by the Word of the Father, by the Word of GOD the Father, as JESUS said: John 16:v.12-15:-

12 I still have much to say to you, but you cannot bear it now.
13But when that Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak of himself, but he will speak whatever he hears, and he will declare to you what is to come.
14He will glorify me, for he will receive what is mine and declare it to you.
15All that the Father has is mine; therefore he told you that (HE) WILL RECEIVE WHAT IS MINE and will declare it to you.

JESUS came on the FOURTH Day of GOD, or about 4,000 years after Adam, in fulfillment of GOD's Plan of restoration of all things-Acts 3:v.18-26-, and also in fulfillment of what was revealed to Moses after 2.500 years or two and a half days of work, according to Genesis 1:v.16. In Genesis 1:v.16 -the fourth GOD's Day- when He refers to His Only Begotten Son, our Lord JESUS Christ, He presented Him to Moses as the GREATER LIGHT or Greater Luminary, because the NAME of JESUS couldn't be revealed yet, of course, it would be in the fourth Day, and the Holy Spirit was named as the Lesser Light or Lesser Luminary, as it is written, and what about the STARS they are the true believers, so, hence Daniel 12:v. 3 reveals: - The wise (who are understanding), will shine like the brightness of the firmament; and THEY WHO teach righteousness to many shall shine like the STARS forever and ever.

NOTE:Though the Holy Spirit be the lesser among the three (1 John 5:v.7 and John 16: v. 12-15) it is he who is with us for to help us in the last days of the Devil's world that will be destroyed by entire from now on, day by day. (Revelation 11:v.18)
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Revelation 11:v.18
cited in the above NOTE in Feb 9, 2022, is LITERALLY fulfilling. In just a little over 4 months the whole world is not the same and goes down to the abyss, the Devil's world is crumbling like the terrible event of the two towers of the Word Trade Center, symbols of the two largest economies in the world in the beginning of this current millennium, USA and EU. According to Revelation 11: v.18, the Almighty GOD in his wrath will perform his work "'For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act"" - Isaiah 28:v.21 - , and Jeremiah reveals us as follow - Jeremiah 30:v.23-24:

23 Behold, the whirlwind of the Lord goeth forth with fury, a CONTINUING whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.
24 The fierce anger of the Lord shall not return, until he hath done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: IN THE LATER DAYS ye shall consider it.

Paul Apostle confirms the prophecies saying: GOD will finish the work, and cut it SHORT in righteousness: because a SHORT work will the Lord make upon the earth- Romans 9:v.28. Before Paul, JESUS also had warned his disciples, and us too, saying: Matthew 24:v.21-25:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any MAN (Pastors, Bishops, Evangelists, among others) shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELIEVE NOT.

24 For there shall arise false Christs(John 5:v.43-47), and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - Remember Paul's recommendation - 2Thessalonians 2:v.3-4

25 Behold, I have told you before.

Hebrews 10:v.37-39

37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

38 Now the Just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.