brown stains noted by Milne and Skeat, lamp or candle oil over the centuries?

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Milne & Skeat on brown stains, water spots, lamp oil, pouncing
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...wn-stains-water-spots-lamp-oil-pouncing.3135/

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brown stains noted by Milne and Skeat, lamp or candle oil over the centuries?
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...t-lamp-or-candle-oil-over-the-centuries.3619/

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brown stains noted by Milne and Skeat, lamp or candle oil over the centuries?
https://forums.carm.org/threads/bro...-lamp-or-candle-oil-over-the-centuries.17316/

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Bill Brown
https://forums.carm.org/threads/is-the-worlds-oldest-bible-a-fake.11375/page-6#post-904032

Facebook - Eureka!
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Scribes and Correctors - Snippet
https://www.google.com/books/editio...rown+stains"+"sinaiticus"&printsec=frontcover

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Bill Brown essay includes brown stains reference in Amazon reviews
https://www.amazon.com/hz/reviews-render/lighthouse/B078XKXDW8?filterByKeyword=god&pageNumber=1
An Illogical Conspiracy Theory On Every Level
Also
https://forums.carm.org/threads/is-the-worlds-oldest-bible-a-fake.11375/page-6#post-904032
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Milne and Skeat touched on one of their supposed "proofs" of darkening. "There are also a number of brown stains, perhaps due to drops of oil or grease from the lamps and candles of pious readers in the past" (71). They even note the ink has run due to water spots. They further discuss the fact that it was necessary to remove the glossy surface of the animal skins so that the writing would be sustained on vellum. They point out that both medieval AND modern scribes used a variety of substances, including "powdered pumice, powdered cuttle-fish bone, sandarac, chalk, whiting, &c. or combinations of these." They go further in noting that "the harsh scouring of the pages suggests fine sand" (79) and that this treatment, known as pouncing, was actually done by the scribe in the fourth century, which explains the difference in color between those pages written by scribe A and those written by scribe D.

Did he actually say that ????
 
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Steven Avery

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brown stains noted by Milne and Skeat, lamp or candle oil over the centuries?
https://forums.carm.org/threads/bro...-lamp-or-candle-oil-over-the-centuries.17316/

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“There are also a number of brown stains, perhaps due to drops of oil or grease from the lamps and candles of pious readers in the past."

Skeat and Milne,
Scribes and Correctors of the Codex Sinaiticus, p 71, 1938.

Steven Avery
So can our Library of Stain experts look at some pages of Sinaiticus and comment as to whether the Theodore Cressy Skeat (1907-2003) comment makes any sense at all? Do the streaky sections really look like dripped candles? Or dripped lamp oil?

And if they were dripping oil from lamps (?) over the centuries, why were the 86 pages that went to Leipzig in 1844 stain-free?
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A question I asked to the Library of Stains experts on Facebook.
 

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Codex Bezae
Wieland Willker 3/30/2012
http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2012/03/codex-bezae-online.html
Browsing through the images one can clearly see how someone applied a chemical agent (brown color) to a lot of pages in a very rough manner. At least it looks like this to me.

Sinaiticus
https://books.google.com/books?id=NyE2AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA163
The ink is of a pale iron-brown colour, except the frequent corrections, which are darker.

Ken Matto
https://www.scionofzion.com/vaticanus_sinaiticus.htm
YouTube = NOTE THIS PAGE IS IT COMPLETE, COMPARE TO EBION
https://www.scionofzion.com/sinaiticus_fake.html

4th century – One of the oldest known versions of a complete New Testament: Codex Sinaiticus. This is the earliest known use of iron-gall ink, which fades to brown over time – a mixture of tannin from nut galls and iron sulfate – sometimes carbon black was added for a dense black ink.
https://volcanoarts.wordpress.com/2015/08/04/4th-century-codex-sinaiticus/

Lindisfarne
http://books.google.com/books?id=sdOzz5HzxngC&pg=PA118#v=onepage&q&f=false
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