original Sinaiticus photographs and lithographs c. 1860? (CARM, NLR) - Vaticanus photos of 1898?

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https://forums.carm.org/threads/cod...simonides-timeline.13239/page-24#post-1428705

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According to the Russian's...
Photography was undertaken in both St Petersburg and Leipzig along with and/or for the production of the Tischendorf facsimiles.

The Codex Sinaiticus and the Manuscripts of Mt Sinai in the Collections of the National Library of Russia

"...Photography and lithography was undertaken in Saint Petersburg and Leipzig, and the printers were Giesecke & Devrient in Leipzig. Some of the copies were printed on special plant-based paper imitating parchment. The edition was published in a run of 327 copies, of which 227 were distributed among major Russian and West-European institutes and libraries, or presented to eminent persons by the Russian Government's decision. Two copies were forwarded to St. Catherine's - one for the Monastery Library and the other for the library of Cairo House..."
https://nlr.ru/eng_old/exib/CodexSinaiticus/

So there are references to the earliest known photography of the Codex Sinaiticus being undertaken in:
  • Cairo 1859
  • St Petersburg 1859-1860?
  • Leipzig 1859-1860?
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We (the SART team) call them alleged photographs and see the 1862 book only as replicated Tische-fonts.
David W. Daniels has some discussion in his books. ***
Afawk, if some pictures were taken as part of the process, they are non-extant.
 
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Kevin McGrane

(iii) Intelligence from Russia: Tischendorf reports that photography was done on the Codex while it was in Cairo from as early as March 1859, and that there was pressure to produce additional photographs in St Petersburg before he removed part of the Codex to Leipzig to work on his facsimile in late 1859. What Tischendorf left in St Petersburg was then actively photographed, a number of plates of which were included in the 1862 facsimile, supplemented by photographs that Tischendorf produced in Leipzig

Were there photographic plates in the 1862 4-volume book?
 
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Codex Sinaiticus and the Manuscripts of Mt Sinai in the National Library of Russia

expositions.nlr.ru

The 4-volume edition of the main portion of the Codex Sinaiticus appeared in 1862 as Bibliorum Codex Sinaiticus Petropolitanus, with dedication to Russian Emperor Alexander II.3

The publication was released in a record short space of time (a mere three years) and impressed everyone by its splendid design and the outstanding quality of printing. Photography and lithography was undertaken in Saint Petersburg and Leipzig, and the printers were Giesecke & Devrient in Leipzig. Some of the copies were printed on special plant-based paper imitating parchment. The edition was published in a run of 327 copies, of which 227 were distributed among major Russian and West-European institutes and libraries, , or presented to eminent persons by the Russian Government's decision. Two copies were forwarded to St. Catherine's - one for the Monastery Library and the other for the library of Cairo House. The publication cost worked out at 20,000 rubles, exclusive of shipping costs. The lithographic facsimile edition of the Codex Sinaiticus drew unprecedented public and scholarly attention and provided a good opportunity for further investigation.
 
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Check out reviews of 1862

Bibliorum Codex Sinaiticus Petropolitanus,

That will make it easier to check the book.
 
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Who Faked the "World’s Oldest Bible"?

If the devil has cooked up a plot against your Bible, would you want to know it?Conspiracy theories are destroyed by solid evidence.Author David W. Daniels came to the point where he could no longer ignore the mounting evidence. He was schooled in Bible college and seminary to believe that the...
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The Sinai Bible Or Bibliorum Codex Sinaiticus Petropolitanus

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The Sinai Bible Or Bibliorum Codex Sinaiticus Petropolitanus

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“He compared the copy as it was made, with the original, letter by letter”

"In it there is a facsimile in lithograph of the last 28 verses of the epistle to the Hebrews, which enables one to form a correct idea of the general appearance of the manuscript in its whole extent."
"excepting the splendid plates of the larger work"

1863 Novum testamentum sinaiticum

“The upper and side margins having been trimmed”

“parchment … light yellow”

“The New Testament is perfect..”

“Great seal of antiquity”
 
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1853

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This might be Hebrews
End of Chap 13
79*
2/3 throuh book

99 has 2 columns
118 has 3 columns
125 ends two books
135 ends and then begins Barnabas
141 ends Barn 3 columns
ends Hermas 148

No Hebrews plates photographs
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David W. Daniels
I study handwriting. This isn't handwriting. This is exact, with extra added. That is achieved through tracing. Especially since it is only the red marginal letters that don't look as exact as the main text letters.
The temptation with the tracer was to fill in information when it does not exist in the original.
At one point the tracer put two dots because he could not bring himself to put a thick and thin partial line, as on the original.

There is a slight tremor in the initial stroke of many letters. But the copy can't get that. Instead, it puts a more blotchy start and then draws the letter.
 
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