Luke 8:43 - which had spent all her living upon physicians,

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Luke 8:43 (AV)
And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years,
which had spent all her living upon physicians,
neither could be healed of any,

Mark 5:26 (AV)
And had suffered many things of many physicians,
and had spent all that she had,
and was nothing bettered,
but rather grew worse,

Sinaiticus removed the pure Bible text.

LaParola
http://www.laparola.net/greco/index.php?rif1=49&rif2=8:43
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8:43 (Münster)
ἥτις ἰατροῖς προσαναλώσασα ὅλον τὸν βίον] (see Mark 5:26) ‭א2 A E G H K L P W Δ Θ Π Ξ f1 f13 28 33 180 205 565 (579 ἀναλώσασα) 597 (700 ἀπάντα βίον) 892 1006 1009 (1010 εἰς ἰατροῖς) 1195 1216 1241 1242 1243 1292 1342 1344 1365 1505 1546 1646 2148 2174 Byz Lect ita itf itr1 vgmss slavmss Ambrose Chromatius Jerome (ς εἰς ἰατροὺς) (NA [ἰατροῖς... βίον])
ἥτις ἰατροῖς προσαναλώσασα ὅλον τὸν βίον αὐτῆς] (‭א* 1071 ἑαυτῆς) C X Ψ 157 1079 1230 1253 1424 l890 l950 itaur itb ite itff2 itl itq vg (syrc) syrp syrh (syrpal(ms)) (copbo) goth eth slavmss Origenlat Jerome Augustine (NR [ἰατροῖς... αὐτῆς]) ND Rivtext Dio TILC
ἥτις] p75 B (D) 0279 itd (syrs) syrpal(mss) copsa arm geo Origen WH CEI Rivmg Nv NM

Church Fathers Scripture Index
https://www.catholiccrossreference.online/fathers/index.php/Luke 8:43
 
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Luke 8:43 - "which had spent all her living upon physicians" -
"How the "scholarship" game is really played.
Luke 8:43 KJB (ESV 2016, Holman 2009, CSB 2017, ISV 2014, RV 1881, ASV 1901, NRSV 1989) - “And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, WHICH HAD SPENT ALL HER LIVING UPON PHYSICIANS, neither could be healed of any...”
NIV (NASB, NET, RSV 1971, Legacy Standard Bible 2021, Catholic St. Joseph, Jehovah Witness NWT) - "And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years [ ] but no one could heal her."
The capitalized words WHICH HAD SPENT ALL HER LIVING UPON PHYSICIANS are found in the Majority of all remaining Greek manuscripts as well as Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus and C, as well as the Old Latin a, aur, b, c, f, ff2, l, q, the Latin Vulgate, the Syriac Peshitta, Harclean, Palestinian, the Ethiopic, Coptic, Gothic and Slavonic ancient versions.
Basically two manuscripts omit all these words - Vaticanus and P75, so we see once again that the so called “oldest and best manuscripts” are in disagreement with each other.
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The Greek reading of “WHICH HAD SPENT ALL HER LIVING UPON PHYSICIANS” was first omitted by Westcott and Hort and was originally omitted in the previous Nestle critical Greek text 4th edition 1934 and the 21st edition of 1975. Even though Westcott and Hort omitted these words, the Revised Version 1881 and the ASV 1901 did not go along with them, but they included all these words and read like the KJB.
But now the latest Nestle-Aland 27th and 28th editions have put all these words back in their critical Greek text! And even though they now are back in the Critical Greek text, versions like the NASB, NIV, LSB and NET do NOT put them in! Such are the ways of modern scholarship.
There is a slightly similar passage found in Mark 5:26 but the Greek text there is very different than the one found here in Luke 8:43. The question then becomes, Did God inspired these words or not?
The reading of “WHICH HAD SPENT ALL HER LIVING UPON PHYSICIANS” is found in Wycliffe 1395, Tyndale 1525, Coverdale 1535, The Great Bible 1540, Matthew's Bible 1549, the Bishops’ Bible 1568 - “which had spent all her substaunce vpon phisitions”, the Geneva Bible 1587, the Douay-Rheims 1582, the Beza N.T. 1599, Mace N.T. 1729, Wesley’s N.T. 1755, The Thomson Bible 1808, The Revised N.T. 1862, The Alford N.T. 1870, The Revised English Bible 1877, Darby 1890, Youngs 1898, the Revised Version 1885, the ASV 1901, Weymouth 1903, Bible in Basic English 1969, the New Berkeley Version in Modern English 1969, the New Life Bible 1969, The Living Bible 1971, the NRSV 1989 and the ESV 2001-2011, the NKJV 1982, Third Millennium Bible 1998, The Lawrie Translation 1998, The Koster Scriptures 1998, The Message 2002, Complete Apostle's Bible 2003, The Pickering N.T. 2005, The Resurrection Life N.T. 2005, the Holman Standard 2009, New Heart English Bible 2005, The Mebust Bible 2007, The Hebraic Transliteration Scripture 2010, the Knox Bible 2012, the Lexham Bible 2012, The Bond Slave Version 2012, the 2011 Orthodox Jewish Bible, the Aramaic Bible in Plain English 2010, the Common English Bible (critical text) of 2011, the International Standard Version 2014, The Voice of 2012, The Biblos Bible 2013, The Far Above All Translation 2014, The Hebrew Names Version 2014, The Modern English Version 2014, The Pioneer's N.T. 2014, The Modern Literal N.T 2014 and the Christian Standard Bible 2016.
The Modern Greek Bible also includes all these words - ητις δαπανησασα εις ιατρους ολον τον βιον αυτης = who spent all her living on physicians
https://newchristianbiblestudy.org/.../greek-modern/luke/8/
However versions that OMIT all these words are Rotherham’s Emphasized bible 1902, Moffat Translation 1913, Goodspeed N.T. 1923, the RSV 1952-1973, the NASBs 1960 - 1995, the NIVs 1984 and 2011 English editions, the New English Bible 1970, the Revised English Bible 1989, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation, the Complete Jewish Bible 1998, Dan Wallace and company’s NET version 2006 (Big surprise;-) and the Legacy Standard Bible 2021.
Notice that the ASV included the words but the revision called the NASB omitted them. While the contrary is true with the RSV which omitted the words, but then the revisions of the NRSV and ESV put them back in again!
The Catholic Connection.
Among the Catholic versions we see the same, typical, bible agnostic confusion. The earlier Douay Rheims 1582 and Douay of 1950 contained the reading “which had spent all her living upon physicians”, but the 1969 Jerusalem bible, the 1970 St. Joseph NAB and the 1985 New Jerusalem bible omitted these words.
But there is more - Now the 2009 Catholic Public Domain Version and The Revised Douay-Rheims 2012 have come out and once again they put the words back in the text - “And there was a certain woman, with a flow of blood for twelve years, WHO PAID OUT ALL HER SUBSTANCE ON PHYSICIANS, and she was unable to be cured by any of them.”
Modern “scholarship” is nothing but consistently inconsistent! Now you see it; now you don’t. No reading is sure; anything and everything can change at any moment. This is the true nature of their “science” of textual criticism.
Foreign Language Bibles.
Among foreign language Bibles that include the words “which had spent all her living upon physicians” are the Latin Vulgage 420 A.D. and the Clementine Vulgate update of 2006 - “quæ in medicos erogaverat omnem substantiam suam”, the Anglo-Saxon Gospels of 990 A.D., the Spanish Sagradas Escrituras 1569, Cipriano de Valera 1602, the Reina Valera 1909, 1960, 1995 - “y que había gastado en médicos todo cuanto tenía” , the French Matin 1744 and French Ostervald 1996 and the French Louis Segond of 2007- “et qui avait dépensé tout son bien en médecins”, Luther’s German bible 1545 and the 2000 German Schlachter Bible - “und all ihr Gut an die Ärzte gewandt hatte”, the Italian Diodati 1649 and La Nuova Diodati 1991 and the Italian Riveduta of 2006 - “ed avea spesa ne’ medici tutta la sua sostanza”, the Portuguese Almeida Actualized 2009 and A Sagrada Biblia em Portugués - “e gastara com os médicos todos os seus haveres.”, the Hungarian Karoli Bible, The Czech BKR bible, the Dutch Staten-Vertaling, the Smith and Van Dyke Arabic bible, and The Polish Updated Gdansk Bible 2013.
The Modern Hebrew Bible - ואשה זבת דם שתים עשרה שנה אשר הוציאה כל קנינה לרפאים ואין איש יכל לרפאתה׃
and it is the reading found in the Modern Greek Bible - "Καὶ γυνὴ οὖσα ἐν ῥύσει αἵματος ἀπὸ ἐτῶν δώδεκα, ἥτις ἰατροῖς προσαναλώσασα ὅλον τὸν βίον οὐκ ἴσχυσεν ὑπ' οὐδενὸς θεραπευθῆναι"
Even though the English editions of the NIV omit all these words, yet the NIV Portuguese translation, called Nova Versão Internacional of 1999, has them in their text and reads- “e gastara tudo o que tinha com os médicos” = “and had spent all her living on physicians”!
Friends don’t let friends use modern perversions. Get yourself the Authorized King James Bible and you will never go wrong.
All of grace, believing the Book = King James Bible,
 
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