Michael and John (Ierotheos) Fotiadis

Steven Avery

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Combine
two spellings in PBF
eliminate Fotiades

Lilia
Ierotheos Fotiades
aus Symi, ein Onkel unserer Mutter“ (Simonides
in Medvedev 1999, 550; in Canfora 2012, 206–7).



Nikolos Farmakis

Nikolos Farmakidis

Ioannis Fotiadis was a professor at the Academy of Agia Marina Symi (University) Then he became a professor at the Academy of Athos and finally at the School of Constantinople, where he met Zakharov, the Russian consul in Constantinople. He was his teacher. As a professor he knew the Patriarch and from Zakharov he also knew Alexandra Sturtza. Michael was his brother and a professor too. John also made a proposal to change the ritual in the Orthodox church which was later accepted by the Patriarchate. When Michael went, sent by his brother, to take these documents to the Patriarch, he took Simonides with him and introduced him to everyone because he thought he was very useful to them. Ioannis and Michael Fotiadis were uncles of Simonides' mother. The rest is known! Thanks!
 
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Steven Avery

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We are working on those pages you sent into English! From your book: "Some letters from his uncle Michael Fotiadis indicate that he probably also introduced him to the circle of Patriarch Anthimos V." - p. 135 What more do we know of those letters? Do we have any text? Connecting Michael Fotiadis with Simonides with Constantinople with Constantius with Anthimos V (and possibly Sinaiticus in 1841) is all VERY helpful! The Monastery tried to deny those connections with Anthimos and Constantius in their letter! Thanks!

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CARM - Telegraph of the Bosphorus
https://forums.carm.org/threads/con...-newspaper-articles.22322/page-3#post-1700749


Simonides himself, in a letter published in the newspaper "Telegraph of Bosphorus" (sheet 384, p. 3), on 28.4.1851, says:

"....And having failed, we returned to our mother's house under the protection of the relatives of our mother Maria, who had been an Ethnikian for many years. After two years of living in Symi and studying with the then teacher of the island, Ierotheos Fotiadis of Symi, who was also a relative of our mother, we separated, and on 18 December 1836, I returned to Syros, and my brother stayed with his relatives".

https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/the-orphanage-of-simonides-youth.4411/#post-18334
Here are some notes about John and Michael Fotiadis Markonis from a conversation with Nikolos Farmakidis:

Ioannis or Ierotheos was born in 1765 and died in 1860. Ioannis changed his name to Ierotheos because he became a monk at Panormitis Monastery.

Michael was born in 1775 but I don't know when he died, certainly after his brother as it appears from Hierotheos' will. And Simonides was named from his father name “Simon”. Simonides does not use these uncles in the narratives because he wants to show that their relations in Constantinople were personal. But his "friend" Alexander Lykourgos in his publications talks about his stay with his uncle Michael and his education at his uncle's School.
Michael is thought to have been with SImonides on the 1841 trip to Constantinople.

This was another conversation:

Ioannis Fotiadis was a professor at the Academy of Agia Marina Symi (University). Then he became a professor at the Academy of Athos and finally at the School of Constantinople, where he met Zakharov, the Russian consul in Constantinople. He was his teacher. As a professor he knew the Patriarch and from Zakharov he also knew Alexandra Sturtza. Michael was his brother and a professor too. John also made a proposal to change the ritual in the Orthodox church which was later accepted by the Patriarchate. When Michael went, sent by his brother, to take these documents to the Patriarch, he took Simonides with him and introduced him to everyone because he thought he was very useful to them. Ioannis and Michael Fotiadis were uncles of Simonides' mother.
Also in the book Nikolos mentions that Michael and Constantine would have been in Constantinople together in 1841.

My notes on that are on a page:

"Nikolas Farmakidis - 1841 trip of Michael Fotiadis and Simonides to Constantius, correspondence - family. scholarship - Isabella Tsaveri - Anthimos"

This is a strong corroboration of the Simonides narrative looking at the timing and location of transferring the manuscript in Constantinople in 1841. Remember, Nikolos wrote of that 1841 visit outside the context of the Sinaiticus narrative of Simonides.
 
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