'medieval' correctors D and E - ( Sirach cursive note script compared ) - 1 Timothy 3:16, Acts 3:13. Matthew 19:3 Proverbs 23:29

[Steven Avery]

https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...c-codex-y-macedoniensis-hermas-csp-urls.2943/

https://www.purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/medieval-correctors-d-and-e.642/#post-13201

https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...uper-ink-including-medieval-corrector-e.3178/

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A number of markings and corrections were called "medieval" and assigned to correctors D and E.

"Later and unimportant correction hands are D and E" - Dirk Jongkind

"The medieval D and E correctors are of slight importance." - Skeat & Milne

Corrector D is dated by Tischendorf to the 8th or 9th century, E to the 12th. However, these are Tischendorf dates, so they are not really based on anything substantive. We will look at a few of the spots here.

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Scrivener never saw the manuscript, so he gives us the info from the Tischendorf publication.

A full Collation of the Codex Sinaiticus with the received text of the New Textament (1864)
https://books.google.com/books?id=v-JUmBD5zIcC&pg=PP33

"Whose style bespeaks the 8th or 9th century ... D" - p. xxv

E appears but three times in the New Testament, and seems fully as late as the twelfth century. - p. xxv

"corrections .. those indicated by D and E look very black, as in Tischendorf’s Facsimiles" - p. xxxi

Corrector E places the word "God" in 1 Timothy 3:16. "God was manifest in the flesh." ...

 

[Steven Avery]

Scrivener on Correctors D and E

Scrivener

 

[Steven Avery]

1 Timothy 3:16 - manuscript and facsimile

This is an incredibly important variant.

http://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=47&chapter=3&lid=en&side=r&zoomSlider=0

There are many spots that are considered 4th century where the ink is just as black.

Scrivener shows the facsimile from Tischendorf.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,
seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world, received up into glory.

 

[Steven Avery]

Corrector E - Matthew 19:3

Matthew 19:3

http://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=33&chapter=19&lid=en&side=r&verse=3&zoomSlider=0

 

[Steven Avery]

Acts 3:13
http://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=51&chapter=3&lid=en&side=r&verse=13&zoomSlider=0

This is the third and last given to E

 

[Steven Avery]

One summary

2. The Majuscule Manuscripts of the New Testament

David C. Parker
https://books.google.com/books?id=guYq9rohFQ8C&pg=PA45

The scarcity of medieval corrections and marginalia is a further indication that majuscules were little used during this period. Codex Sinaiticus has a couple of medieval corrections.14

14 There are three corrections in the NT: at Matt 19:3 ; 1 Tim 3:16 ; and Acts 3:13 (and there is one in Proverbs). There are a few pious notes, and some Arabic glosses, notably one that may be dated between 1453 and 1492. See www.codexsinaiticus.org and David C. Parker, Codex Sinaiticus: The Story of the World’s Oldest Bible (London: The British Library; Peabody: Hendrickson, 2010).

Parker
Certainly there are Greek marginal notes which indicate that it was in a environment, while the presence of several comments in Arabic also suggests a setting consonant with St Catherine's. p. 3

 

[Steven Avery]

Sirach Cursive Note
https://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manu...lioNo=1&lid=en&quireNo=68&side=r&zoomSlider=0

Gloss ___
ό πάο(ηο) cocpifac) χορην(όο) υ(ίό)ο Jv καί
Aov(oc) ή ivu~0cTftt(oc) cocpia του ~cc
ή όΐόάοκουοα όνον γνώο(ιν) οόφιοον
άμαρτωλ(σν) θίο<ρύΛα{κτσν) -coc δόξαν


ό πάο(ηο) cocpifac) χορην(όο) υ(ίό)ο Jv καί Aov(oc) ή ivu~0cTftt(oc) cocpia του ~cc ή όΐόάοκουοα όνον γνώο(ιν) οόφιοον άμαρτωλ(σν) θίο<ρύΛα{κτσν) -coc δόξαν

ό πάοηο cocpifac χορηνόο υίόο Jv καί Aovoc ή ivu~0cTfttoc cocpia του ~cc ή όΐόάοκουοα όνον γνώοιν οόφιοον άμαρτωλσν θίο<ρύΛακτσν -coc δόξαν

 

[Steven Avery]

Erasmus 1522 compared to Sirach cursive note

Archived on disk as "Kirk DiVietro - sirach cursive note compared to Erasmus 1522.pdf"

 

[Steven Avery]

Compare to Sirach writing

Kirk has compare Sirach and print

Minuscule - Matthew 12th 13th century
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-ADD-01879-00011/1

 

[Steven Avery]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1606464819728900096

 

[Steven Avery]

Have we looked for the Proverbs Medieval Corrections?
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...ncluding-medieval-corrector-e.3178/post-13295

(from same hand as 1 Timothy 3:16 ?)

First check Parker ... maybe Jongkind?

Tischendorf on these corrections from "E".

 

[Steven Avery]

Acts 3:13 Matthew 19:13
1 Tim 3:16 Proverbs 23:29

 

[Steven Avery]

Acts 3:13 Matthew 19:13
1 Timothy 3:16 Proverbs 23:29

 

[Steven Avery]

In Codex Sinaiticus there are a few special corrections in a bold black ink, three in the New Testament, and the corrector is known as corrector E.. This includes the correction to make 1 Timothy 3:16:

“God was manifest in the flesh”,

where the nomina sacra for “God” (theos Θεος}.theta-sigma replaces the previous prima manu “who” omicron-sigma ὃς.

The nomina sacra has a line through the two letters theta and sigma. In Codex Sinaiticus the line is in the shape of a sword or arrow.

Is this arrow-line a known palaeographic feature? Can we see it on other manuscripts? Or is it a quirk of the Sinaiticus corrector?

 

[Steven Avery]

Nerdy discussion of Acts 3:13

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Why examining the manuscripts can be helpful. In Acts 3:13, Peter referred to the Lord's "servant" (παῖδα) Jesus. The original scribe of Siniaiticus wrote the obviously wrong word πατερα (Father) and...

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Why examining the manuscripts can be helpful. In Acts 3:13, Peter referred to the Lord's "servant" (παῖδα) Jesus. The original scribe of Siniaiticus wrote the obviously wrong word πατερα (Father) and a later corrector erased part of the τ changing it to a ι and then wrote the last two letters -δα over the -ρα, but in a cursive hand! I wonder if the boss checked his work?

Kristian Handoyo Sugiyarto
You should give the complete writing. It can be ho theos twn paterwn?

Clark Bates
Kristian Handoyo Sugiyarto no. If you look closely at the lettering left under the change you can see the bottom edge of a majuscule alpha. It was πατερα


William Varner
Kristian Handoyo Sugiyarto ἐδόξασεν τὸν παῖδα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν
Acts 3:13

Eric Rowe
I think the cursive probably means it’s later. So not the boss checking his work.

Pete Myers
Eric Rowe Good call. 100% concur. There's, like, so many hands on that MS. (including the Leipzig librarian

)

Clark Bates
Eric Rowe It's definitely from after the 8th century

William Varner
Eric Rowe I was referring to the original boss over the original work.

Seong Kim
Only way to know for sure is if you do some scientific analysis on the ink to see if the cursive is the same substance as the original

Daniel Stevens
Seong Kim While the sample size is only two letters, the ink flaking on the cursive script is far less than on the surrounding majuscule script (even the over-written letters!) This, to me, likely suggests a substantial gap in time between the writing and insertion of this edit. (Of course, the difference in script also tells us centuries passed between the two, but this is just another piece of evidence.)

William Varner
Guys! In the op, I referred to a “later corrector.”

William Varner
ἐδόξασεν τὸν παῖδα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν Acts 3:13