Steven Avery
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Luke 4:16
And he came to Nazareth,
where he had been brought up:
and, as his custom was,
he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day,
and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:31
And came down to Capernaum,
a city of Galilee,
and taught them on the sabbath days.
From Har Nitai or Arbel you can see down to Capernaum.
And it really is .. DOWN.
I'll see if I can find a picture.
Here is one (and tap on it with the mouse to enlarge.)
http://www.bibleplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/1.4-Jezreel-Valley.jpg
From modern Nazareth you would take a long road through Galilee. This language does not fit.
(I will plan on finding my pics.)
On that map it is across the hilly area to "Cana?", then down to the Turan Valley, then back up and across the Galilee hills, taking the valley route between Nitai (not on map) and Arbel, which is the Khirbet Wadi Hamam (synagogue unearthed there) then finally through to the Kinneret and up to Capernaum. There is no way that "down to Capernaum" is sensible writing.
Conzelmann points this out in The Theology of St. Luke (1954 German, English 1961).
Here is the report from Karel Hanhart.
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The Theology of St. Luke
https://archive.org/details/lish00hans/page/38/mode/1up
4. The Beginnings: [Capernaum (Luke iv, 31-44)
We will note in the first place certain geographical details. It is of course geographically correct to say that Jesus comes ‘down’ to Capemaum, but this does not necessarily imply an accurate geographical knowledge on Luke’s part. kara might well be deduced from the incorrect idea that Nazareth stands on a hill. A fller elucidation of the geographical reference (noXiv Trjs raXiXoJas) is not of itself of significance (cf. the statements
concerning Bethsaida and Nain); but the question arises whether
the phrase might not have a special point in view of the contrast
drawn between the two towns, no doubt in line with Luke's
ideas concerning the Galileans. Most remarkable of all, how-
ever, is the fact that we are not told anywhere in Luke that
Capernaum!s situated by the lake. Yet the fact that it is situated
here is part and parcel of many of the traditions. Simon the
fisherman has his home here (iv, 38). It cannot be an accidental
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Hans Conzelmann wrote his groundbreaking pioneering work on Lukan geography and theology in his book The Theology of St. Luke (originally published in German as Die Mitte der Zeit in 1954). [1, 2]
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Studies in John (1970)
Karel Hanhart
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZnweAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA31
"the going 'down' to Capernaum, while Nazareth does not stand on a hill (p. 39)"
On that occasion he quoted the proverb that a prophet has no honor in his own country. The intent of Luke’s remark, “And he went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee (31)” is to show how the rejection of Jesus’ own people leads to a mission among strangers.5
This is actually showing both that Nazareth is not on the brow of a hill, and that down to Capernaum does not fit.
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John 2:11-12 (AV)
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee,
and manifested forth his glory;
and his disciples believed on him.
After this he went down to Capernaum,
he, and his mother, and his brethren,
and his disciples:
and they continued there not many days.
Luke 4:23 (AV)
And he said unto them,
Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself:
whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
Steven
And he came to Nazareth,
where he had been brought up:
and, as his custom was,
he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day,
and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:31
And came down to Capernaum,
a city of Galilee,
and taught them on the sabbath days.
From Har Nitai or Arbel you can see down to Capernaum.
And it really is .. DOWN.
I'll see if I can find a picture.
Here is one (and tap on it with the mouse to enlarge.)
http://www.bibleplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/1.4-Jezreel-Valley.jpg
From modern Nazareth you would take a long road through Galilee. This language does not fit.
(I will plan on finding my pics.)
On that map it is across the hilly area to "Cana?", then down to the Turan Valley, then back up and across the Galilee hills, taking the valley route between Nitai (not on map) and Arbel, which is the Khirbet Wadi Hamam (synagogue unearthed there) then finally through to the Kinneret and up to Capernaum. There is no way that "down to Capernaum" is sensible writing.
Conzelmann points this out in The Theology of St. Luke (1954 German, English 1961).
Here is the report from Karel Hanhart.
=====
The Theology of St. Luke
https://archive.org/details/lish00hans/page/38/mode/1up
4. The Beginnings: [Capernaum (Luke iv, 31-44)
We will note in the first place certain geographical details. It is of course geographically correct to say that Jesus comes ‘down’ to Capemaum, but this does not necessarily imply an accurate geographical knowledge on Luke’s part. kara might well be deduced from the incorrect idea that Nazareth stands on a hill. A fller elucidation of the geographical reference (noXiv Trjs raXiXoJas) is not of itself of significance (cf. the statements
concerning Bethsaida and Nain); but the question arises whether
the phrase might not have a special point in view of the contrast
drawn between the two towns, no doubt in line with Luke's
ideas concerning the Galileans. Most remarkable of all, how-
ever, is the fact that we are not told anywhere in Luke that
Capernaum!s situated by the lake. Yet the fact that it is situated
here is part and parcel of many of the traditions. Simon the
fisherman has his home here (iv, 38). It cannot be an accidental
====
Hans Conzelmann wrote his groundbreaking pioneering work on Lukan geography and theology in his book The Theology of St. Luke (originally published in German as Die Mitte der Zeit in 1954). [1, 2]
====
Studies in John (1970)
Karel Hanhart
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZnweAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA31
"the going 'down' to Capernaum, while Nazareth does not stand on a hill (p. 39)"
On that occasion he quoted the proverb that a prophet has no honor in his own country. The intent of Luke’s remark, “And he went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee (31)” is to show how the rejection of Jesus’ own people leads to a mission among strangers.5
This is actually showing both that Nazareth is not on the brow of a hill, and that down to Capernaum does not fit.
==============
John 2:11-12 (AV)
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee,
and manifested forth his glory;
and his disciples believed on him.
After this he went down to Capernaum,
he, and his mother, and his brethren,
and his disciples:
and they continued there not many days.
Luke 4:23 (AV)
And he said unto them,
Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself:
whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
Steven
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