Historicist Understanding of Matthew 24

Sifted Sands

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Ever since I was saved by faith in Jesus Christ in March 2022, one of the major revelations God gave to me was about Biblical prophecy. I remember before I was saved, when I had embraced Roman Catholicism to try to get into contact with God about my terrible sins, I thought that the Roman church was Christianity. I didn't hate Protestants, Baptists, or other groups, but I thought that they must be misinformed and that the Roman church with her long history, with her noble adherents, and those mighty warriors like the crusaders that I admired so much, must be the bedrock of true Christianity.

Now when I got saved on the night of March 5th over three years ago, part of the way God opened my eyes during my salvation was the truth that the Roman church is not of Christ. I threw away my rosary that night, and realized that Jesus Christ would not send a bunch of men to die in the Middle East while promising them eternal life. That sudden realization that this was a lie sold by man in order to get men to die in a war for the Roman church shocked me. And so, one of my first questions for God in the weeks following my salvation was simple:

What is wrong with the Roman Catholic church? If it is not Christianity, then what is it?

Of course, God soon answered me over the course of the next few weeks as I was introduced to a mode of interpretation of the prophecies of the Bible I had never heard of before - Historicism.

Now I was no Bible scholar before I was saved, and very few Roman Catholics are. I had only read some of Genesis and Matthew, and otherwise was pretty blind to what was contained in God's Word. But I had heard all about Futurism, also called Dispensationalism, because it is what the few saved people in my family believed in. But when I began researching prophecy concerning the Roman Catholic church, I stumbled across what was taught by men like Martin Luther, John Calvin, John and Charles Wesley, Matthew Henry, Adam Clarke, Isaac Newton, John Gill, and a host of other men who are very famous among the saints who have went before us. And they all taught an interpretation of prophecies from Daniel, Revelation, the Gospels, and elsewhere that many call "Historicism" and I was blown away by it. As someone who loves history, their interpretation fit perfectly into what I would expect from an Omnipotent, Almighty God. That He had shown all of the history of His Church purchased by His blood throughout history, from its formation in the early days after Christ's ascension to Christ's return and beyond over the course of these past 2000 years.

I type this lengthy preface only because on this site I see this section has "Historicism" in the title but doesn't have any real threads about Historicism that I can find. So I wanted to share an article on a Historicist interpretation of Matthew 24 from a modern Historicist named Nicklas Arthur who runs a broadcast called "Prophecy Reformation":

Here is the link:


Below is a tidbit from the article, but the rest can be found at that link. I find this article extremely helpful in understanding a prophecy that is so misunderstood by over 99% of Christians today, yet at one point was very well understood by just about all born again Christian theologians for hundreds of years until modern prophecy interpretations muddled everyone's understanding. Historicism used to be the majority interpretation of saved denominations from my research, whether they call themself Reformed, Protestant, Baptist, Methodist, or whatever set of doctrinal beliefs. It is my hope that this interpretation once again gets serious consideration from modern Christians, who seem to be only swinging between a pendulum of either Dispensationalism or Preterism right now, as if those are the only two options.

The Olivet Discourse

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Mat. 24:34

C.S. Lewis’ comment that Matthew 24:34 is “the most embarrassing verse in the Bible” can only be the result of a cursory reading or common misunderstanding of prophecy in general. But given the amount of time over more than a decade of intense study that I have personally pursued to come to my present understanding, I am not surprised that anyone so engaged in other pursuits could come to a similar conclusion as Mr. Lewis.

Understandably, Matthew chapter 24 is perhaps one of the most confusing prophetic passages in the Gospels:

Obviously, Mr. Lewis believed that at least some of the prophecy was not fulfilled in “that generation”. How embarrassing for Jesus. I however differ in my understanding. I believe that the Word of God is infallible. If there is anything that is embarrassing, it would be my understanding or the translation that would be at fault. I certainly do not believe that Jesus got it wrong when he spoke those words to his disciples, regardless of how they may appear to my understanding as they have been transmitted to me several thousand years later in a different language. Was the original wording the same as what has been transmitted to me in the English? Can I find a clue to a better understanding by looking deeper into the text? Can the seemingly obvious error be reconciled and the honor of Jesus’ divinity be vindicated? Upon deeper investigation, I believe the text itself resolves the issue completely: Let us step back in time – into the sandals of the disciples…

The Two Questions.​

The disciples are pointing out the magnificence of the buildings of the temple when Jesus, to their astonishment, prophesies their destruction:

“See ye not all these things…there shall not be left here one stone upon another…”

They ponder his reply in stunned silence as they slowly walk over to the Mount of Olives, leaving the crowds behind. Jesus anticipates the questions that are coming, he gathers his small troop around him. Matthew records two questions asked by Jesus’ disciples when they finally reach the Mount of Olives.

Notice the first question is differentiated by the phrase, “these things” and the author uses this key throughout the text to separate the two answers.
I have highlighted the first question and its direct answers in yellow-(rounded box), the second question in blue-[square box]. “These things” also begs the question: What things? The answer is in the previous verse, the “buildings of the temple”. The buildings of the temple were standing when Jesus was there. This does not include the outer wall or retaining stones of the Temple Mount itself. Jesus knew what was going to happen in 70 AD: The Romans (the people of the prince that shall come) burned the Temple and all of the gold overlay melted and seeped between the stones of the Temple itself so that the Roman soldiers turned over every stone of the buildings to extract that gold, completely fulfilling Jesus’ prophecy to the letter.

Question 1: when shall these things be? In other words, when shall there not be left here one stone upon another of the (antecedent) buildings of the temple?

Question 2: what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
 

Oseas

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The Olivet Discourse

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Mat. 24:34

C.S. Lewis’ comment that Matthew 24:34 is “the most embarrassing verse in the Bible” can only be the result of a cursory reading or common misunderstanding of prophecy in general. But given the amount of time over more than a decade of intense study that I have personally pursued to come to my present understanding, I am not surprised that anyone so engaged in other pursuits could come to a similar conclusion as Mr. Lewis.

Understandably, Matthew chapter 24 is perhaps one of the most confusing prophetic passages in the Gospels:

Obviously, Mr. Lewis believed that at least some of the prophecy was not fulfilled in “that generation”. How embarrassing for Jesus. I however differ in my understanding. I believe that the Word of God is infallible. If there is anything that is embarrassing, it would be my understanding or the translation that would be at fault. I certainly do not believe that Jesus got it wrong when he spoke those words to his disciples, regardless of how they may appear to my understanding as they have been transmitted to me several thousand years later in a different language. Was the original wording the same as what has been transmitted to me in the English? Can I find a clue to a better understanding by looking deeper into the text? Can the seemingly obvious error be reconciled and the honor of Jesus’ divinity be vindicated? Upon deeper investigation, I believe the text itself resolves the issue completely: Let us step back in time – into the sandals of the disciples…

The Two Questions.​

The disciples are pointing out the magnificence of the buildings of the temple when Jesus, to their astonishment, prophesies their destruction:

“See ye not all these things…there shall not be left here one stone upon another…”

They ponder his reply in stunned silence as they slowly walk over to the Mount of Olives, leaving the crowds behind. Jesus anticipates the questions that are coming, he gathers his small troop around him. Matthew records two questions asked by Jesus’ disciples when they finally reach the Mount of Olives.

Notice the first question is differentiated by the phrase, “these things” and the author uses this key throughout the text to separate the two answers.
I have highlighted the first question and its direct answers in yellow-(rounded box), the second question in blue-[square box]. “These things” also begs the question: What things? The answer is in the previous verse, the “buildings of the temple”. The buildings of the temple were standing when Jesus was there. This does not include the outer wall or retaining stones of the Temple Mount itself. Jesus knew what was going to happen in 70 AD: The Romans (the people of the prince that shall come) burned the Temple and all of the gold overlay melted and seeped between the stones of the Temple itself so that the Roman soldiers turned over every stone of the buildings to extract that gold, completely fulfilling Jesus’ prophecy to the letter.

Question 1: when shall these things be? In other words, when shall there not be left here one stone upon another of the (antecedent) buildings of the temple?

Question 2: what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Hi Sifted Sands

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Reading your article above, where you highlight Historicism as a tool to help interpret more correctly Scriptures, “extremely helpful in understanding a prophecy that is so misunderstood by over 99% of Christians today”, however I, as a reader of this blessed site purebible, I see an interesting topic here denominated “Scripture interprets Scripture, so although both topics be very interesting, I consider the second option beter than the first.

First of all, it's important to highlight the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy. JESUS prophesied the end of the Temple would be tragic, and described literally in detail how the wonderful structures of the Temple would be destroyed as a whole, and He asserted it to the disciples saying "There shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down".


It's also very important to highlight that some time before, Lord JESUS had cast out all them that sold and bought in the Temple, He overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, and said unto them -> "It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves". And because of this, the Jews said unto JESUS: "What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" JESUS answered and said unto them:-> "Destroy this Temple, and in THREE days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews,"Forty and six years was this Temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" But JESUS spake of the temple of His body, but not only of His body of flesh, but also His Church, His body here on earth after His resurrection and ascension. By the way, we just entered in the 3rd Day after Christ and, actually, we are really living at the TURN from the sixth to the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millennium, so what JESUS prophesied about His body here, mean the Church, it will fulfill LITERALLY in this current time or from now on.


Although I am among the 99% you mentioned, it would be a great privilege to be among the 1%, I felt compelled to express my interpretation of your two questions, and to place myself under your judgment, and that of others as well, and thereby improve my knowledge of the Scriptures.


Interpreting Matthew 24:1-
2 -> DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE IN 70AD -

1 - And Jesus went out, and departed from the Temple: and His disciples came to Him for to shew Him the buildings of the temple.
(Oh how great, how admirable, are the stones of the temple of Jerusalem! Lord, look to these beautiful structures of the Temple!)

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. -> Jesus left His disciples disappointed with his answer, evidently.


What JESUS prophesied about the Temple, it fulfilled LITERALLY in year 70AD. Then, in fulfilment of the words of JESUS, the Temple was destroyed, and the people of Israel banned from their land, and they scattered themselves around the world for 1878 years, from year 70 to 1948AD, and more than 100K Jews died. Israel was punished severely from year 70 until 1948 AD, they suffered strong punishments in LITERAL fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:15-68. 53 verses of SEVERE punishments and curses. Take a look. By the way, the WORD is GOD, Self-Executing, Self-Executable,
understand?

Interpreting Matthew 24:3 → Then JESUS and His disciples went to the Mount of Olives, located 6 km from the Temple, and the disciples still astonished or perplexed, they privately asked two questions to the Lord, as you commented above, and I quoted(sic) below:

"Question 1: when shall these things be? In other words, when shall there not be left here one stone upon another of the (antecedent) buildings of the temple?”


Question 2: what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”

But if we analyze deeply, we see that: → STILL IN PERPLEXITY ABOUT FUTURE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE, THE DISCIPLES MADE TWO QUESTIONS TO JESUS, BUT ABOUT THREE THINGS, AS FOLLOW:

1st thing:→ about time: → WHEN shall these things be?

2nd thing -> What shall be the SIGN of thy coming?,

3rd thing: → and (the SIGN) of the END of the world?

Well, the testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. So He LISTED several events:-> linked-> (1st) to the future time when they would happen. Jesus didn't specify dates, of course, but he made it clear what would begin to happen from then on→(but the END is not yet). And (2nd thing) it is linked to the signs of His coming; and (3rd) to the END of the world → end of the current Devil's world, as follow:

Interpreting Matthew 24:4 to 8 → JESUS SAID TO THE DISCIPLES, AND FOR US TOO, HOW WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END TIMES; SO,

JESUS LISTED SEVERAL SIGNS AND HAPPENINGS AND THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS. -

v.4 And Jesus answered and said unto His disciples:
- Take heed that no man deceive you. (this was the first concerns of JESUS). It seems that many have not kept the warning of JESUS and are being deceived by false and devilish doctrines and false biblical theories spread in the world, mainly through internet.

JESUS said: v. 5 to 8

v.5 - For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (Soon will manifest the Beast of the earth→(
Revelation 13:11 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-13, take a look) who has two horns like a lamb, actually a false lamb, a false messiah (AN IMPOSTOR), as said JESUS ->John 5:43 combined with Revelation 13:11-18.→ (Check it out).

v.6 - And ye shall hear of wars and RUMOURS of wars:(this prophecy is fulfilling LITERALLY) see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet.

v.7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, ...:-> (Will G7, and G20, and EU, and UN, among others Entities,
be DISSOLVED from now on? Day after day, the happenings of the current satanic World will run in this way according to the 2Peter 3:7 and Revelation 11:18 and Micah 4:3).

... and there shall be:-(the prophecies are already fulfilling literally,
as follow):

- famines;
- this is literally being fulfilled in this current time;

- and pestilences - this is literally being fulfilled in this current time;

- and earthquakes in divers places. - several of them have hapenned recently;

But,


8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.-> (pre-tribulation period)

Therefore, be prepared or else get ready


Again, revising the list of signs and events of JESUS coming, and of the end of the world:

- 1- Appearance and manifestation of false Christ ; (John 5:43-47 and Revelation 13:11)

- 2- Wars and rumours of wars ;

- 3- nation shall rise against nation ; (Will G7, and G20, and EU, and UN, among others Entities,
be DISSOLVED from now on?

- 4- kingdom against kingdom; (Kingdom of GOD X Kingdom of Devil - Revelation 11:15 and 12:7-12
combined with Revelation 16:13-15) ;

- 5- famines ;

- 6- pestilences ;

- 7- earthquakes in divers places.-> (several of them have hapenned recently);

- 8- All these are the beginning of sorrows
. -

See that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. →
(In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATION period)

May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection

Amen.


 

Oseas

Member
Around year 30 AD or 2000 years ago, our Lord JESUS came and announced Law and Prophets lasted until John the Baptist(Matthew 11:13). So the FIRST heavenly environment that was established by the Word of GOD in the Earth, by the Law and Prophets, beginning by Moses->(Psalms 78:25 combined with 1Corinthians 10:1-13 and Luke 20:35-36), was ended literally. And from the days of John the Baptist until now (Matthew 11:12), the Kingdom of heaven->(the SECOND heavenly environment-Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, established by the Word of GOD in the Earth, by the Gospel of GOD's Kingdom, beginning by JESUS, and continued by the Apostles and disciples of JESUS until this current time), suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Our Lord JESUS also said: Matthew 5:11-12
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven-(for now, in the second heaven-Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on): for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

And Matthew 24:10-14, reveals:
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END come.

2Peter 3:7-14:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which ARE NOW, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men. -> (THIS DAY ARRIVED).

Revelation 6:9-11:

9 And when He had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of GOD, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not Judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 19:5-10
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD all ye his servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And He saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

Revelation 11:15-18:
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the NATIONS were(will be) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD's WRATH-Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look), and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD Father, Father of our Lord JESUS Christ,->the Word made flesh in One, and our Father,-> Self-executing, Self-executable, GOD is Life, Eternal Life, the bread of Life, the bread of heaven, the heavenly manna, the bread of angels, understand? → Psalms 78:25 and 1Corinthians 10:1-12 combined with Luke 20:35-36, take a look.

May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen.
 

Oseas

Member
The wonderful question from 2000 years ago in Matthew 24:3: "Lord, tell us, when will your coming be and when will the age end?"

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DAY OF THE LORD and THE SPECIFIC DAY OF THE LORD'S COMING

The Day of the Lord is the seventh and final Day, the last millennium, of course. However, the Day of Jesus' Coming is
a specific 24-hour day within this seventh millennium, it is the 24-hour day 1335 (Daniel 12:12), linked to the last week, week 70, Daniel 9:24-27, exactly at the END of the second half of the week - Daniel 12:11, that is, exactly 45 days after the 1290 days as revealed.


Now, now, we all know that we have just entered the seventh and final millennium, the seventh and final Day. In fact, we are already living at the turn from the sixth Day to the seventh and final Day,-> God's clock is already indicating it is midnight, and the clock does not stop, we will pass midnight and a new Day, the seventh and final Day, is on its threshold, it is about to dawn.


All that remains now is to enter the final week, the first half of the week. The fact is that it will be 7 years of the religious and satanic Empire of the Antichrist (Daniel 2:40-47 combined with Daniel 7 to 27 and Revelation 11:15-18, among other biblical references, especially 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 and 51-55, take a look), until the last day of the existence of the WORLD OF THE DEVIL, day 1334. Blessed are those who reach 1335 days. Be prepared or else get ready - Matthew 25:6-10.

May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us and give us His protection
Amen.



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Oseas

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Hebrews 11:1-2

1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders (24 elders – Revelation 4:2-6, take a look. Who are them?)* obtained a good report.

Hebrews 11:6 - But without faith it is impossible to please GOD: for he that cometh to GOD must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.

Take a look the IMPOSSIBLE things that GOD did in ancient times, long before He sent His Son JESUS into the world. To all who trusted in Him in those times and in the most difficult hours, GOD showed Himself as the Savior of those who put their trust in Him - Hebrews 11.

Luke 18:8 . . . Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?

NOAH AND HIS FAMILY

We know that Noah believed GOD and by FAITH built he Ark over a hundred years. GOD waited in the days of Noah while the Ark was being prepared, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. -> 2Peter 2:5 →But GOD spared not the OLD WORLD (AND NOW? What to say about the current world), but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;-> 1Peter 3:20-> Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of GOD waited in the days of Noah, while the Ark was being prepared, wherein few, that is, eight souls were SAVED by water.->(
Today water is the Word of GOD: John 5:24 and 7:38, take a look).->...without FAITH it is impossible to please GOD. Hebrews 11:6:→ Ephesians 2:8→ 8 For by grace are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of GOD:

JOSHUA AND CALEB

Jude 1:5-> I
will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having SAVED the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.→What happened? Numbers 14:26-27
and 30-39:→ 26 And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, 27 How long shall I bear with this evil congregation,which murmur against Me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against Me.→30 Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, SAVE Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and JOSHUA the son of Nun.

As we all know, the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.-> Exodus 12:37. But SAVE Caleb and Joshua all the rest of the people perished in the desert.(Terrible, without FAITH it is impossible to please GOD. Hebrews 11:6).

Again:

We know that Noah believed GOD and by FAITH built he Ark over a hundred years. GOD waited in the days of Noah while the Ark was being prepared, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. -> 2Peter 2:5 →But GOD spared not the OLD WORLD (AND NOW, What to say about the current world?)Revelation 11:15-18:→ 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,(heaven?->Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on) ->The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders(Revelation 4:3-4, take a look), which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the NATIONS were (will be) angry, and thy wrath is come(Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look), and THE TIME of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 16:13-15:→13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon(dragon?Revelation 12:3-4 and 13:11, take a look), and out of the mouth of the beast(Revelation 13:1-10, take a look), and out of the mouth of the false prophet.(John 5:43-47, take a look)

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world(current world), to gather them to the battle of that great day of GOD Almighty.→(Be prepared or else get ready ->THE LORD WARNED US-VERSE 15, below, saying):

15 BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

1John 2:28->
And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.→(VERY SOON – Matthew 25:6-10 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:15-18). Be prepared or else get ready

GOD BLESS

 

Oseas

Member
Around year 30 AD or 2000 years ago, our Lord JESUS came and announced Law and Prophets lasted until John the Baptist->(Matthew 11:13). So the FIRST heavenly environment that was established by the Word of GOD in the Earth, by the Law and Prophets, beginning by Moses->(Psalms 78:25 combined with 1Corinthians 10:1-13 and Luke 20:35-36), was ended literally.-> And from the days of John the Baptist until now (Matthew 11:12-13), the Kingdom of heaven-> (the SECOND heavenly environment-Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, established by the Word of GOD in the Earth, by the Gospel of GOD's Kingdom, beginning by JESUS, and continued by the Apostles and disciples of JESUS until this current time), suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Matthew 24:31 -> 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:31:

And he shall send his angels,
with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together his elect,
from the four winds,
from one END of heaven,
to the other.

His angels: ->
Luke 20:35-36 combined with Revelation 1:20. For better understanding read
Matthew 11:9-11, and compare with who is the least in the Kingdom of heaven.

Sound of a Trumpet: -
> The Trumpet shall sound:-> 1Corinthians 15:51-53 :
51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be CHANGED, -> combined with Philippians 3:20-21, take a look.
52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye->(LAST WEEK OF SEVEN YEARS-TWO PERIOD OF 42 MONTHS OR 1260 DAYS), at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

His elected
They-His angels-> shall gather together His elect (and the days will be shortenned->Matthew 24:22.) -
> But this will happen in perilous time:-> Matthew 24:23-26, take a look. ->Be careful, be prepared or else get ready

From the four winds:-> What or Who are the four winds: Daniel 7:1-14 combined with Revelation 7:1-14, and so on. Take a look.

From one END of heaven to the other.
-> Heaven? Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, where we are now, that is the heavenly environment of the New Testament. -> From END of one heaven to the other: -> refers to the END of the Old Testament->Matthew 11:12-13 combined with Hebrews 8:13, -> and -> to the (END) of the other refers to the END of the current Dispensation of the New Testament. -> 2Peter 3:7:->7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men. ->The Judgment Seat of Christ - 2Corinthians 5:10, among other biblical references.

Be prepared or else get ready

1Corinthians 14:8

If the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
 

Oseas

Member
2Peter 3:17
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before,
beware lest ye also, being led away with the ERROR of the WICKED(Wicked? Daniel 12:10, take a look), fall from your own stedfastness.

Matthew 24:8 to 15:

10
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise(false preachers of the Word of GOD->Matthew 25:8-10), and shall deceive many. ->(1Timothy 4:1-2 combined with 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and 2Corinthians 11:13-15 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-13. Terrible, very terrible).
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. ->(Understand?) Alleluia!!!
14 This gospel of the Kingdom(of GOD) shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto ALL NATIONS
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and THEN shall the END come.->(1Corinrthians 15:24-28 and 51-55,take a look, combined with Philippians 3:20-21 and Romans 8:18-19).

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place->(Revelation 11:8->8->And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. ->(whoso readeth, let him understand:) ->
(2Thessalonians 2:3-13, take a look) -> Be prepared or else get read.

Matthew 24:9 ->Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

2Peter 3:18
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour JESUS Christ. To Him be Glory both now and for ever. Amen.

To the only wise GOD our Saviour, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.


 

Oseas

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Has eternal punishment begun? Will be?

Revelation 12:3-4 and
7
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:
7 And there was war in heaven:...

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Thread starter robycop3 Start date Mar 3, 2022


MATTHEW 24: THE REAL FACTS -> THE REAL FULFILLMENT OF JESUS's PROPHECY - THREE TERRIBLE PROPHETIC EVENTS -> See, the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy, understand?

1ST EVENT - DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE - > DEN OF THIEVES

2ND EVENT - THE SIGNS OF HIS COMING AFTER TWO DAYS OR AFTER 2000 YEARS

3RD EVENT - THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD FROM NOW ON




1st EVENT- DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE - DEN OF THIEVES -

MATTHEW 24:1-2 - THE PROPHECY


1- When our Lord JESUS came out from the Temple, the disciples came to Him for to shew Him the buildings of the Temple. (It seems the disciples were exultant and excited and they were talking with the Lord of the greatness and of the beauty of the Temple).

2- And JESUS said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

THE LITERAL FULFILLMENT OF JESUS's PROPHECY

As we all know, what JESUS prophesied above, the destruction of the Temple, was LITERALLY fulfilled in the year 70 AD, around 40 years after His ascension, the first century at the turn from the fourth to the fifth GOD's Day, around 4070 years after Adam. Some time after, around year 95 AD, GOD the Father held an indescribable feast in the 3rd heaven to deliver His sealed book of Revelation to His Son, the Lord JESUS, sitting at His right hand, understand?:-> Revelation 1:1 combined with Revelation chapters 4 and 5. Very wonderful.

Well, there should never again be built another similar man-made Temple, or the old Temple-the den of the thieves- it never came to be rebuilt again as it had been before, but never. Notice that concerning the destruction of the Temple", it has nothing to do with Mount Olives;

THE CONSEQUENCES: - TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT OF ISRAEL AFTER CRUCIFY AND KILL THE MESSIAH

FIRST, the nation of ISRAEL, including the Temple, the den of thieves, were DESTROYED by complete, and the NATION of ISRAEL too. THE TERRIBLE punishment AGAINST ISRAEL was literalmente according to the Deuteronomy 28:15-68, strong punishments and CURSES, AND ALL WAS destroyed, AND THE PEOPLE who escaped alive from the slaughter were scattered throughout the Earth for 1878 years, yeah, 1878 years, from 70 to 1948.

Yes, 1878 years of SEVERE CURSES and punishments against ISRAEL-Deuteronomy 28:15-68- and the Temple -the den of thieves- there should never again be built another.

And now? Now, after the punishments of 1878 years, will manifest himself the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13;11, the false lamb, the false messiah, in literal fulfillment of John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-13, actually the Great Dragon, the red Dragon-Revelation 12:9.

Now the father of the Jews ->John 8:44 - , will manifest himself in literal fulfillment of John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-13-> but he will be cast down into the bottomless pit, understand? That he should deceive the nations no more in literal fulfillment of ->Revelation 20:1-4.

Be prepared or else get ready


- 2nd EVENT- THE SIGNS OF JESUS's COMING AND
- 3rd DESTRUCTION OF THE CURRENT DEVIL's WORLD
MATTHEW 24:3-8 -

JESUS LISTED SEVERAL EVENTS ABOUT HIS COMING, AND ABOUT THE END OF THE CURRENT WORLD OF DEVIL-MATTHEW 24:3-8,
AND ABOUT HIS COMING


3 And JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives and

the disciples came unto Him PRIVATELY, asking about two things:-->1- What shall be the sign of thy coming? 2- And of the END of the world? ->(the satanic current world)

4 JESUS answered the questions of the disciples and gave a LIST of signs unto them of the things that AT FIRST would happen before His coming. as follow:

(1) Take heed that no man deceive you;

(2) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (John 5:43-48 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, take a look); and shall DECEIVE many;

(3) And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, BUT THE END IS NOT YET;

(4) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; ->(this assertion is fulfilling LITERALLY)

(5) and there shall be famines;

(6) and pestilences;

(7) and earthquakes, in divers places;

but

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


But JESUS continued prophesying and warning His people, saying: All these things are the beginning of sorrows, and all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.<--> In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATION PERIOD, AND JUST NOW THIS PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD is FULFILLING LITERALLY.

This is a perilous time-> Matthew 24:9-14 combined with 2Timothy 3:1-5, take a look, be prepared or else get ready. Very very terrible time, but the WRATH of GOD MUST come→ Revelation 11:18, and they will suffer everlasting perdition and destruction.

The worst will still come after, in fulffillment of Matthew 24:15-25. Get ready.


ABOUT RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD


By the way, when will be the END of all things? It's easy to know by the Word of GOD: 1Corinthians 15:24-26 combined with Daniel 12:1-3 and 7-12 --> and 1 Thessalonians 4:14-16 combined with Revelation 11:15-18, among many other biblical references, mainly Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look.

GOD BLESS

Be careful or else get ready, because the worst is coming in literal fulfillment of the prophecies of JESUS. The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy->Revelation 19:10 combined with Matthew 24:35, take a look.



www.baptistboard.com/threads/is-putin-the-beast-antichrist.123601/page-2 ->((Oh, He is not the head, of course. The head is/will be the false messiah--> John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-13)
Is Putin the beast/antichrist? - posts 36 and 49 to 60 - Thread starter robycop3 Start date Mar 3, 2022

And there was war in heaven:... -> Revelation 12:7

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