disarming Gaza kibbutzim and moshavim before October 7, 2023

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The Truth About Oct 7 that Israel Doesn't Want You To Know

All in one place, the best survey of Israel's security "failures" on October 7 that you'll read, and the horrible conclusions the facts compel us to draw.

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@TheMcgWire @zendogbreath Hi HDT, I remember hearing a report, in the early days, about some disarming of kibbutzim and moshavim in the region, in the weeks or months before Oct 7, 2023. Read it only once. Do you know if that occurred? Thanks! Appreciate your reporting! Steven

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AI Overview

Reports that communities near Gaza were disarmed or lacked sufficient weaponry before October 7 largely stemmed from internal Israel Defense Forces (IDF) investigations and civilian testimonies. These inquiries detailed how, in the years and months leading up to the attack, the army systematically collected or relocated firearms from local civilian emergency squads, leaving responders without accessible weapons or with an inadequate number of guns when the invasion occurred. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Primary sources and reporting on these issues include:

• Kibbutz Nahal Oz: Civilian defense leaders testified that the IDF disarmed their emergency response team, removing their guns when the anti-tunnel barrier was constructed along the Gaza border. As a result, the team could not access their weapons during the initial attack. Details of this testimony are available in the Jerusalem Post. [1]
• Centralized Armory Policies: Multiple kibbutzim reported that prior to October 7, the IDF ordered local defense squads to deposit their individually issued rifles into a centralized vault to prevent theft. During the Hamas invasion, terrorists successfully surrounded the armories, preventing defenders from retrieving the weapons. Reporting on the dangerous consequences of this mandate can be found in Haaretz and the Times of Israel. [1, 2]
• IDF Probes into Specific Communities: Internal army investigations into heavily impacted areas like Moshav Mivtahim repeatedly confirmed that local emergency squads were not adequately equipped. In some cases, only a small fraction of the designated squad members were armed at the time of the infiltration. [1]
  These accounts detail how short-sighted centralization policies and broader IDF tactical changes left many border-adjacent towns without the immediate defensive firepower to protect their residents during the initial hours of the assault. [1, 2, 3]

 

[Steven Avery]

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Thanks, JD.

A possible addition:
There were also multiple reports of the disarming of kibbutzim and moshavim (including ... let's place the weapons in an armory for safety, then on Oct 7 the Gaza fighters quickly controlled the armories).

And I am looking for the best reports, but Google AI gave decent info when I asked :

"where are the reports that some kibbutzim and moshavim near Gaza were disarmed before October 7"

Apparently the zios have not yet controlled the Google AI on this question. I read about this long ago, and most reports do not have the info.

Steven