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GiuseppeWed Dec 24, 2025 12:39 pmForum:
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Jesus and David in the Didache.Replies: 2Views: 25
... by itself to hint at Jesus being the Davidic Messiah. I open again this thread since I am currently translating the Robert Vipper's chapter on the Didache, and I wonder if the Vipper's claim is the same held by Ben above, i.e. that Jesus is simply not the davidic Messiah, or a even more radical ...
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TonyBasedTue Dec 09, 2025 10:52 amForum:
Christian Texts and HistoryTopic:
Didache Priority My PositionReplies: 8Views: 382
It seems the Didache proceeds any written gospel and is the earliest Christian document we have. I used to think the gospel of Thomas was first, but now I am realizing I was wrong. The Didache author is extremely familiar with the ...
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Ben C. SmithSat Nov 07, 2020 5:00 pmForum:
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Doublets in the Didache.Replies: 1Views: 4579
A brief look at the Didache (yet again) inspired by a talk that Alan Garrow gave in Edinburgh half a decade ago. Garrow notes the doublets in the second half of the text and splits the text accordingly; I give a modified rendition of ...
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Ben C. SmithThu Oct 01, 2020 4:53 pmForum:
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The Jewish food blessing and the Didache eucharist.Replies: 11Views: 18588
... in Jewish Quarterly Review , volume 19, number 3 (January 1929), pages 211-262 ( link ). Alan Garrow, The Gospel of Matthew’s Dependence on the Didache , page 18. Notice that there are four sections, each of them known as a blessing: Tosefta, Berakhot 6.1: 1 The blessing of Zimun is from the ...
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smilelaughenjoyThu Feb 13, 2020 5:22 pmForum:
Christian Texts and HistoryTopic:
How is it that the Didache is listed as older Matthew's Gospel if it talks about The Lord's Prayer from The Gospel?Replies: 2Views: 6478
The Gospel of Matthew has The Lord's Prayer and Didache 8:2 makes a reference to Christ commanding people to pray in the manner of The Lord's Prayer. Didache 8:2 - "Neither pray ye as the hypocrites, but as the Lord hath commanded in his gospel ...
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Ben C. SmithWed Jul 31, 2019 11:16 amForum:
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Jesus and David in the Didache.Replies: 0Views: 7936
... of yours? I will try to get back to this. Okay, Bernard, to get back to this, I will start off by readily agreeing that there is nothing in Didache 9-10 which explicitly states that Jesus is the descendant of David. Much of my sense of this in the passage derives from some of the same considerations ...
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S HowellSun Oct 07, 2018 7:35 pmForum:
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Parenthesis in J.B. Lightfoot's translation of the DidacheReplies: 3Views: 2944
Can anyone tell me why the parentheses are there? Does it mean that the bracketed words are missing from the Greek because the original text is damaged?
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vietfunmkTue Jun 19, 2018 6:07 pmForum:
Christian Texts and HistoryTopic:
The DidacheReplies: 12Views: 83927
Any one knows the actual date this document was written. I saw on wikipedia was found at the end of the 19th century. Some said it was written as 1st century. Any one knows how they came to this conclusion?
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Ben C. SmithSat Apr 22, 2017 7:53 pmForum:
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Alan Garrow's view of Didache 9-10.Replies: 0Views: 2290
In chapter 2 of The Gospel of Matthew's Dependence on the Didache, Alan Garrow proposes that the two eucharistic chapters, 9 and 10, are not two parts of the same original liturgy, but rather two different (yet parallel) rituals. He lays them out as follows ...
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Ben C. SmithFri Nov 25, 2016 1:21 pmForum:
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Jesus, Christ, and the son of David in the Didache.Replies: 6Views: 3141
There is not actually very much about Jesus, Christ
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FransJVermeirenSun Oct 23, 2016 2:39 pmForum:
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The apocalyptic XVIth chapter of the DidacheReplies: 43Views: 23256
The Didache is broadly considered to be an independent and very early Christian writing, probably from the end of the first century CE. It shows some relationship with the gospel of Matthew and with Revelation, but it is not ...
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spinThu Oct 20, 2016 6:27 pmForum:
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The eucharist in the Didache: what's missing?Replies: 16Views: 8108
Here is the eucharist (translated by Ehrman, The Apostolic Fathers I, Loeb 2003) outlined in the Didache. [431] Ch.9 And with respect to the eucharist, you shall give thanks as follows. 2. First, with respect to the cup: " We give you thanks, our Father, for the holy ...
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DCHindleySat Oct 08, 2016 2:36 pmForum:
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RBL review of The Didache: A Missing Piece of the PuzzleReplies: 2Views: 2460
There is a new RBL review of the most recent critical book about the Didache by Jonathan Draper and Clayton Jefford, eds. The Didache: A Missing Piece of the Puzzle in Early Christianity (Early Christianity and Its Literature 14 Atlanta: SBL Press, 2015, a ...
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Ben C. SmithTue Sep 20, 2016 6:29 pmForum:
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Parallels between the Didache and Paul.Replies: 13Views: 7941
There may be more parallels between the Pauline epistles and the Didache than you think. Many (if not most) of the parallels on this list are not necessarily of a close verbal nature suggesting a direct relationship between texts; rather, they are similarities ...
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Ben C. SmithMon Sep 19, 2016 10:01 amForum:
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Lordship in the Didache.Replies: 11Views: 7989
The following is a list of all of the instances of the term "Lord" (κύριος) in the Didache: Title or subtitle: Teaching of the Lord through the Twelve Apostles to the Gentiles. 4.1 My child, you shall remember both night and day the one who speaks to you the ...
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Michael BGMon Jul 11, 2016 8:15 pmForum:
Christian Texts and HistoryTopic:
Didache chapter 9 the EucharistReplies: 33Views: 25036
... ὑμῶν, ἀλλ’ οἱ βαπτισθέντες εἰς ὄνομα κυρίου· καὶ γὰρ περὶ τούτου εἴρηκεν ὁ κύριος· Μὴ δῶτε τὸ ἅγιον τοῖς κυσί. (
http://www.ccel.org/l/lake/fathers/didache.htm) My provisional translation is: 1. Now concerning the Eucharist, in this way give thanks. 2. First concerning the cup; we give thanks to ...
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MrMacSonWed Jun 22, 2016 9:14 pmForum:
Christian Texts and HistoryTopic:
Didache 2: Origins & Textual RelationshipsReplies: 4Views: 4025
I think 1 Clement, the Didache, Barnabas' epistle and Revelation, all of them written before the end of the 1st century, include gospels material, as explained here:
http://historical-jesus.info/gospels.html#1clement (for 1 Clement, ...
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Ben C. SmithThu Oct 01, 2015 5:49 pmForum:
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The Didache.Replies: 103Views: 352623
Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (Didache) Information Sources: Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 1782 (late century IV); Mellicensis 597 (century IX or X); Codex Monacensis 6264 (century XI); Codex Hierosolymitanus (year 1056). The Didache is a church ...
