“throughly” and “thoroughly”

[Steven Avery]

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The words cannot be synonyms, because if they just mean the same thing, then why use two different "spellings"? But clearly there is some distinction in meaning. We find the distinction by two methods:
1. Examining all the places each word is printed using a standardised, pure edition.
2. Then examining dictionaries/records.
From the Scripture we can see that THROUGHLY means fully/completely, and that THOROUGHLY means to have gone through, like as a process that penetrates or accomplishes an exacting going right through.
OED -> Throughly. 1. Fully; completely; perfectly. 2. Through the whole thickness, substance or extant; through, throughout, all through, quite through. And a subcategory meaning to that, Through, from beginning to end; for the whole length or time; all through.
OED -> Thoroughly. 1. In a way that penetrates or goes through; right through, quite through. 2. In thorough manner of degree; in every part of detail; in all respects; with nothing left undone; fully, completely wholly, entirely, perfectly.
It used to be said by KJBO advocates that "throughly" meant "fully specifically through the inside as well as the outside" while "thoroughly" meant "generally fully through". These old definitions were not rigorously correct.
If you take the first definition from both entries of the words from the OED, it will explain everything, and make sense as to why these are two separate words with separate meanings.

 

[Steven Avery]

Throughly and thoroughly looked at

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[Steven Avery]

Throughly and thoroughly looked at

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Both “throughly” and “thoroughly” appear in the Bible.

The words cannot be synonyms, because if they just mean the same thing, then why use two different “spellings”? But clearly there is some distinction in meaning. Following a simple process, we find distinction of meanings of words by a two step method:

1. Examining all the places each word is printed using a standardised, pure edition.
2. Then examining dictionaries/records.

In fact, a full examination of this topic needs to be made, because when I wrote a book mentioning this in passing, I didn’t really look into it.
Looking into it tentatively, from the Scripture it could be suggested that THROUGHLY means fully/completely, and that THOROUGHLY means to have gone through, like as a process that penetrates or accomplishes an exacting going right through. However, I think a fuller examination has to be made of the topic.

Also, for assistance, here is the information from the Oxford English Dictionary.

OED -> Throughly. 1. Fully; completely; perfectly. 2. Through the whole thickness, substance or extant; through, throughout, all through, quite through. And a subcategory meaning to that, Through, from beginning to end; for the whole length or time; all through.

OED -> Thoroughly. 1. In a way that penetrates or goes through; right through, quite through. 2. In thorough manner of degree; in every part of detail; in all respects; with nothing left undone; fully, completely wholly, entirely, perfectly.

It used to be said by some KJBO advocates many years ago that “throughly” meant “fully through the inside as well as the outside” while “thoroughly” just meant on the outside. So this implied that the meaning dichotomy was on whether the description was to do with the inside of something. I expect that those old definitions were not based upon a full examination nor were rigorously correct. Moreover, some people have looked into this area since to study further the distinctions.

Someone could just take the first definitions from both entries of the words from the OED, and this already shows, by the differences between them, that these are two separate words with separate meanings.

Simplistic definitions as given by others abound, and the internet is full of all kinds of possibilities of meaning. Rather than confuse the issue, I will make a more comprehensive study, because it is evident that

There are people who try and say that these two words mean the same thing. They do this because they are taking simplistic looks at dictionaries and also trying to make out that 1611 spelling is authoritative over current editions.

While it is true there are very close similarities in both spelling and meaning, they are not the same thing. I also think that definitions given in the past, when the issue had not yet been looked at properly, could give rise to people saying that such things are wrong or unclear, leading some to claim that there is no difference meaning.

Just because spellings in old KJB editions have varied, this does not mean that spelling doesn’t matter or that the words are identical after all.

Lack of standardised English orthography, typographical errors, etc. are all possible factors.
We know that the way it is now in our current edition is correct, and that typography and orthography were not always so precise, when we begin from 1611 or from Tyndale.

Thus, the need to better understand and define words or differences, where study needs to be done. So far, in my preparation for a more concerted examination, it is obvious that there is a distinction between “throughly” and “thoroughly”, that they are not just the same thing or a meaningless spelling variation of the same word.

 

[Steven Avery]

All verses PCE..

Exodus 21:19 (AV)
If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him be quit: only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed.

2Kings 11:18 (AV)
And all the people of the land went into the house of Baal, and brake it down; his altars and his images brake they in pieces thoroughly, and slew Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars. And the priest appointed officers over the house of the LORD.

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Genesis 11:3 (AV)
And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

Job 6:2 (AV)
Oh that my grief were throughly weighed, and my calamity laid in the balances together!

Psalm 51:2 (AV)
Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.

Jeremiah 6:9 (AV)
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall throughly glean the remnant of Israel as a vine: turn back thine hand as a grapegatherer into the baskets.

Jeremiah 7:5 (AV)
For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;

Jeremiah 50:34 (AV)
Their Redeemer is strong; the LORD of hosts is his name: he shall throughly plead their cause, that he may give rest to the land, and disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon.

Ezekiel 16:9 (AV)
Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.

Matthew 3:12 (AV)
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Luke 3:17 (AV)
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

2 Corinthians 11:6 (AV)
But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

2 Timothy 3:17 (AV)
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[Steven Avery]

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Joseph Hulse Weber (1855–1944) Methodist Evangelist, hymns
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Revival Tornadoes; Or, Life and Labors of Rev. Joseph H. Weber: Evangelist, the Converted Roman Catholic (1890)
Martin Wells Knapp
https://books.google.com/books?id=mj4FAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA247
p. 247-248

Now I want you to turn to the Fifty-first Psalm, "Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness; according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies, blot out my transgression; wash me throughly." A lady one time thought I did not know what I was saying, maybe I do not sometimes; but she wrote me a little note and said, "Mr. Weber, you said, Wash me throughly,' and the Bible says, 'Wash me thoroughly." Poor, ignorant woman, she did not know any better, so I did not blame her. You will find out that all English versions of the Bible read, "Wash me throughly"; all American versions read, "Wash me thoroughly." That is just the difference. I gave my Bible to a preacher, and I said, "Please read this." And he said, "Wash me thoroughly from my iniquities." I said, "You better go to school and find out how to read; " he said, "Why?" I said, "Look here, that don't say 'thoroughly, but it says throughly.' "

Now, I tell you I like that word "throughly " best. Why? I have a jar, and I have it sealed; I hand it to the servant girl and I say to her, "I want you to wash that thoroughly." All right; she takes and washes it all on the outside and it is nice and clean. I get it and I say, "Have you washed it thoroughly?" And she says, "Yes, sir." And I just take and unscrew the lid and I smell inside. Phew! "Why," she says, "it is thoroughly washed." But I say, "Now wash it throughly." And that is just the way with David. He wanted God to go right through him. You see, if God goes through you that takes the inside, the outside, the top side, and every side. Glory to God! So I like that word "throughly." It is God going right through me. Say, if God goes through some of you folks he will find quite a lot of dirt and filth on the inside. That is so; is it not? "Wash me throughly from my iniquity; cleanse me from my sin. Against thee and thee only have I sinned and done this evil in thy sight; that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest." Seventh verse, "Purge me with hyssop and I shall be clean; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow."

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Genesis 11:3 - And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
“Did they burn the bricks thoroughly, or did they burn them throughly? Many King James Bibles sloppily interchange those two words. For the record, if they had thoroughly burned the bricks they would not have had any bricks left. Instead what they desired was a brick that had been evenly heated throughout the entire brick. A brick that has been improperly heated in a kiln would be unsuitable for building. It would easily crumble because parts of it would be still soft whereas other parts of it would have been properly hardened in the kiln.
The King James Bible is a marvel of exact language. Our brother Paul Scott has been demonstrating that with his posts. I have chosen these two words to demonstrate that the King James Bible that you purchased might be compromised with bad editing. Why should we care about such a minor change? For one thing nobody should want a bible with errors. The people on the Plains of Shinar did not thoroughly burn their bricks, but the interchanging of those words leads to greater error elsewhere.
The example that I use most to illustrate that is II Timothy 3:17, "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works". Does study of the word of God make a man thoroughly furnished to all good works? Is his furnishing so thorough that he is capable of any good work ? Could he be a midwife? Could he be a financial auditor and properly audit large mission boards? Could he be a body guard for a missionary in a troubled area? If you have a bible that says he is thoroughly furnished (and some of you do) then your bible says that his furnishing is all inclusive.
No, instead he is throughly furnished just like the King James translators said. That means that throughout his life his furnishing is such that whether he trained to become a midwife, an accountant or a body guard, he would do it in such a way as to reflect his study in the word of God. The word of God did not train him for those jobs. It provided him with the personal character so that whatever he sought to do, it would be done in a godly fashion. Because he has studied to show himself approved unto God, throughout every aspect of his life, he is furnished to do it well.
One of the purposes of this blog is to show the reader how harmful it is to have King James Bible that has been edited either in error or on purpose to change anything. Hopefully this little lesson will help.”
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• Dr. John M. Asquith
• Feb 20, 2017
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Updated: Feb 14, 2020



And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly, Gen. 11:3. Did they burn the bricks thoroughly, or did they burn them throughly? Many King James Bibles sloppily interchange those two words. For the record, if they had thoroughly burned the bricks they would not have had any bricks left. Instead what they desired was a brick that had been evenly heated throughout the entire brick. A brick that has been improperly heated in a kiln would be unsuitable for building. It would easily crumble because parts of it would be still soft whereas other parts of it would have been properly hardened in the kiln.

The King James Bible is a marvel of exact language. Our brother Paul Scott has been demonstrating that with his posts. I have chosen these two words to demonstrate that the King James Bible that you purchased might be compromised with bad editing. Why should we care about such a minor change? For one thing nobody should want a bible with errors. The people on the Plains of Shinar did not thoroughly burn their bricks, but the interchanging of those words leads to greater error elsewhere.

The example that I use most to illustrate that is II Timothy 3:17, That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. Does study of the word of God make a man thoroughly furnished to all good works? Is his furnishing so thorough that he is capable of any good work ? Could he be a midwife? Could he be a financial auditor and properly audit large mission boards? Could he be a body guard for a missionary in a troubled area? If you have a bible that says he is thoroughly furnished (and some of you do) then your bible says that his furnishing is all inclusive.

No, instead he is throughly furnished just like the King James translators said. That means that throughout his life his furnishing is such that whether he trained to become a midwife, an accountant or a body guard, he would do it in such a way as to reflect his study in the word of God. The word of God did not train him for those jobs. It provided him with the personal character so that whatever he sought to do, it would be done in a godly fashion. Because he has studied to show himself approved unto God, throughout every aspect of his life, he is furnished to do it well.

One of the purposes of this blog is to show the reader how harmful it is to have King James Bible that has been edited either in error or on purpose to change anything. Hopefully this little lesson will help.

#DrJohnMAsquith

 

[Steven Avery]

throughly or thoroughly

What's the difference between the two adverbs "throughly" and "thoroughly" and when should I use one rather than the other? Can I use them interchangeably? I generally use "thoroughly" but a lot of people on this forum have been using "throughly" instead and that kind of got me into question...

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Thoroughly and Throughly can be thought of as an outside versus inside starting point.
Thoroughly works on the issue from the outside towards the inside.
Throughly works from the inside toward the outside.
It is like the difference between Hindu philosophy and Bible believing Christianity.




You mean it is not commonly used in Late Modern English (1800 to present). It was most certainly used in Modern English (1500-18000. Go to the English Club or a similar site to see the correct time periods of the English language.

Throughly is as correct today as it was 400 years ago. Just because a word is not in common usage does not make it incorrect: it makes that word uncommon. I have made my choice to use the more excellent and precise Modern English since it is superior to the low standard of today. Besides, using uncommon words gives people a chance to learn something and appreciate the English language all the more.

I am throughly satisfied with my thorough response to the issue at hand.

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The fact that "throughly" is termed "archaic" today only means that the people who write dictionaries are merely making a written record of the degeneration of the English language. There are many words that have fallen from common usage and others that have been perverted to mean something entirely different from what the word really means.

My point is that throughly does not mean the same thing as thoroughly. Some ignorant slave to vulgarity may fail to see the distinction.

I do not let dictionaries assume the place of final authority in my understanding of English. Good luck reading Shakespeare, Dickens or Swift if all you have is the WordReference dictionary or the Concise OED.

Our culture would be better off if we employed the language of the Golden Age of English rather than settle down in the limited sphere of today's degenerate English.
No one will ever use throughly unless they have been informed of the word's actual meaning. It will continue to await those who do not settle for the standard set by lazy English departments and blind leaders of the blind.

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2 Timothy 3.16-17. 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God my be perfect, throughly finished unto all good works.' So it means something like 'perfectly', 'completely'.

The quote from the King James Bible is a great example of the proper use of the word throughly. God's word works from the inside out while religion works from the outside in and that is a huge difference.

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I am seriuosly maintaining that the KJB was written when the English language was at it's zenith. I also prefer a large vocabulary that does not include the vulgarity so common today.

I am against the democratic process where it involves mob rule.

That's it for me.

 

[Steven Avery]

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"thoroughly" and "throughly"

In the Authorized Version of Scripture (aka: King James) the word THOROUGHLY is only used 2 times the word THROUGHLY is used 12 times. By reading all these verses you will understand the difference. also, as a former brick maker bricks need to be burned in a kiln throughly, from the inside out...

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In the Authorized Version of Scripture (aka: King James) the word THOROUGHLY is only used 2 times
the word THROUGHLY is used 12 times. By reading all these verses you will understand the difference.

also, as a former brick maker bricks need to be burned in a kiln throughly, from the inside out and evenly for durrability and strength

 

[Steven Avery]

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. throughly .... ' The word is ' throughly , ' not ' thoroughly . ' I have asked hundreds of people in classes to read this verse of Scripture , and 99 out of 100 will read that word ' thoroughly . ' When we do not read what is written ..

Is Wierwille justified in trying to make his distinction between thoroughly and throughly ? Not in the slightest . In fact , almost all other translations fail to follow his thought ; the King James is unique in its rendering of ...

 

[Steven Avery]

English Usage: Studies in the History and Uses of English Words and Phrases (1917)
John Lesslie Hall
http://books.google.com/books?id=pJ45uJrsGfsC&pg=PA308

THROUGHLY

Throughly is used in the Bible and in the Prayer Book, and is familiar to every close reader of Shakespeare. In cheap editions of the Bible, it is often changed to thoroughly. “Wash me throughly from my sins, ’ ’ though regularly printed in the Prayer Book and in carefully edited Bibles, is often changed by public readers into “Wash me thoroughly.” Students in college classes have to be taught the word throughly in their Shakespeare classes.

 

[Steven Avery]

Genesis 11:3 (AV 1611): “thorowly” (this is not “throughly”, since the latter expression is also used in the AV 1611, e.g. in 2 Timothy 3,17!)
Genesis 11:3 (KJV 1769): “throughly”