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    Romans 9:5 - the natural association of God and blessed

    You're taking what he is saying out of context. Harris is saying that any passage that makes "blessed" refer back to "Christ," directly, separates it from the actual noun it's supposed to modify, which is "God." I agree. You've given the words "natural association" a meaning and life of their...
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    Rather, I said the same thing about a hundred times and you misconstrued it a hundred ways. What's humorous is that you believe an appositive would be formed by placing a comma after "God," and that an apposition is actually an ellipsis that can't be modified by an adjective. You actually seem...
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    heavenly witnesses grammar - Brian Winter refutation of Gary Robert Hudson article

    So you learned Greek overnight? I think that's all, for now.
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    I have. More than a few times. Again I said that the AV translators are utilizing an appositive. That is the topic of discussion, and therefore a limiting factor of my argument. I've repeatedly said the meaning of the Greek has more than one way of being conveyed in English, attributive or...
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    I'm looking everywhere at all your comments. You're fishing for validation all over the internet. The all of the readings but approach clearly indicates hostility toward the passage referring to Christ as God, which it does, unless you want to change the punctuation or wording (transposition...
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    heavenly witnesses grammar - Brian Winter refutation of Gary Robert Hudson article

    I'm not whining. I'm relating to you that it's not acceptable to go and spread lies about someone and post it on the internet for the world to see as though it were true. It's called slander, but it seems defending yourself against slander in your opinion is considered "whining." You should look...
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    Barry Hofstetter offers euphony as the reason for seeing apposition

    "Nominalize" means to convert a word or phrase into a noun; εὐλογητὸς is an adjective. Nominative is a case in Greek that pertains to the subject. So we are not looking at two nouns strung together. They all start with "NO" but that does not make them equivalent. I'm not confused at all. By my...
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    Barry Hofstetter offers euphony as the reason for seeing apposition

    No, he didn't. He admitted that they are masculine nominatives, which has no relationship with what Spin wrote. You misrepresented Spin's argument by swapping out "nouns" for "nominatives," which changes things entirely, and didn't even tell him Spin said it should mean "Blessed by God" (which...
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    heavenly witnesses grammar - Brian Winter refutation of Gary Robert Hudson article

    What I said was you shouldn't be criticizing people's ability in the Greek language when you have no background in it. You're all over the place because you have no foundation. You can't separate the good from the bad. I have no idea where you are coming up with all the rest of this, none of...
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    Check your own sources. Rommel writes: To get rid of the bright testimony here borne to the supreme divinity of Christ, various expedients have been adopted: (1) To place a period, either after the words "concerning the flesh Christ came," rendering the next clause as a doxology to the...
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    Harris and Andrews are following Abbot, as is Metzger to some extent, so in reality it's Abbot I'm taking issue with. These authors are not looking at the manuscripts themselves, nor did they live in a time that was possible. Metzger received his information by inquiry as well. I have digital...
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    Romans 9:5 - commentaries who see the AV text as ambiguous

    I'm not running, I just have better ways to spend my time than to converse with people who are only interested in catching words and misrepresenting others to bolster themselves. I'm even more averse to continuing a conversation where the other individual involved is starting to spread really...
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    Romans 9:5 - three distinct affirmations about Christ - Murray Harris and Wolfgang Friedrich Gess

    What false claim? I responded to you over there (link). May I suggest that you take more care in reading what someone writes, and less time feeling like you need to "correct" them by stating the same things they have already noted? Would you rather that I used your specific words, "circular,"...
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    Romans 9:5 - manuscripts that have alternate punctuation and text

    Sometimes things can be stated simply without involving a long debate, which you've unnecessarily chosen to spark here. You pretend to contradict me as though I never wrote, "Greek punctuation among the manuscripts designates a short pause, long pause, or full stop. What we find in manuscripts...
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    Romans 9:5 - three distinct affirmations about Christ - Murray Harris and Wolfgang Friedrich Gess

    Nothing but insult after insult above: Don't be insulting and pretend I'm speaking of anything more than the passage of Romans 9:5, since you know my position on manuscripts from way back, and I can give you an informed answer concerning just about any significant variant in the NT text. In...
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    the English AV pure Bible text of Romans 9:5 - claims of apposition

    This is just absolute nonsense. You're calling it fuzzy and inconsistent because like all other commentaries where you see "God blessed," you read in your own personal interpretation and fail to understand the function of a predicate adjective in the postpositive position (or even a simple...
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    Romans 9:5 - the circular claim that Christ and God are in apposition

    This type of Greek construction doesn't require a linking verb, so we add it when it's necessary in the English construction. The meaning is the same both in "God blessed" and "God is blessed," that God is said to be "blessed." I have told you this many times. Your second option, "God blessed"...
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    Titus 2:13 - the modern versions mangle "our Saviour Jesus Christ"

    Who are the Regensburgs? What are you talking about? I read it as "Jehovah," I'm just saying we don't know how it was pronounced because it wasn't spoken aloud and Hebrew is a revived language. Your etymology was false, as I have noted above. This is now the third admonition, and as such our...
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    Romans 9:5 - commentaries who see the AV text as ambiguous

    It's not worth conversing with you when you refuse to read my statements correctly.
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